» Home » Miscellaneous
If A Medium Makes Someone Feel Better Then All Is Ok.
My wife went with a couple of friends today to see a medium. The reason behind it as that one of her friends' mum has recently died. She believes in this nonsense but that is her business. It cost £20. To me that is a con because I know better and can see very clearly how they do it but this lady felt much better after the experience. I resisted explaining in great detail what a crock of sh ite the whole thing is because if she feels better then - JOB DONE.
 StBalders  17 Oct 2009 18:50
                           (What's this?)  Add to Firefox  RSS
Sorry to read about your wife having it off with a medium, sounds like he was certainly on the job, as you suggest. I bet he is laughing his socks off! Guess if you punch him on the nose you could possibly say that you have hit a happy medium....;-) Can't say I'm suprised.
 
 LordDaniel  19 Oct 2009 11:26
 1 Comment
 
 very poor. How are you getting by now you are out of a job? Is there any other work as a scriptwriter for you since Richard Whitely passed away?
by  StBalders
 20 Oct 2009 21:54
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
Some mediums have large events and focus on the afterlife. I've been to a few with my mom and sister while we were on vacation and they kind of wanted me to come along. The only one who I can recall the name of is Sylvia Brown. She does do personal readings, but at these large events, she just picks a few people to come up and ask her one question at the end. The rest of the time she focused on the afterlife and she is comforting to a large number of people who show up and seem to follow her around the country. I'm not convinced that she can or does communicate with the dead, but the comfort and peace she brings to those who are fearful of death and dying is notable. For those who believe that we can communicate with those who have passed, she is a comfort to them as well. I know she was to my mom and my sister. I have to admit, I was even a bit comforted because I wanted to be. I miss my father very much and I worried that I had not spent enough time with him before he became very ill. She said that he understood. I don't have a clue as to whether or not she has any possible way of communicating with spirits, but hearing that did make me feel better even with my doubts about that kind of thing. I will say this much, at one of the "seminars" that we went to, I felt chills and the hair on my neck was standing up as the medium was communicating with someone who had been murdered and a few other times. I left the room and went outside. Each time I went in, the uneasy feeling came back. It could have meant nothing. It could be because my religious beliefs are such that I don't believe God lets our loved ones come and go from Heaven and I don't know why they would even want to leave Heaven in the first place. My reaction, however, is not what mattered. My mom and sister have left these events feeling more at peace than when they walked in. I have teased them a bit, but I'm actually happy that they found comfort. Now that my mom has stopped all artificial nutrition and hydration and I know she will not be with us much longer, I'm glad that she is not fearful of passing because she has more faith that she will be going to see my dad and all of her loved ones again. I had not doubted that anyway, but she had some doubts about things and this helped her. It can't be that bad if it gave her more peace in her last days. While verum speculated that it could become a problem for people later on in life because they would have to reconcile their grief in a more realistic manner (not quite sure how he put it...I read it last night), I haven't seen her or my sister have even a single doubt about what they were told and what they heard from those mediums. Even my faith in God was a bit weak after losing my father. Right after his passing, I had a bit of a crisis of faith. I didn't have the belief in mediums that my mom and sister do, but it might have helped me a bit. My faith is stronger and more mature now, but we all can have our moments that we want something more tangible than faith can possibly allow. For those people and at those times, perhaps mediums who focus on the peace of the afterlife can help bring us back to the realization that our loved ones are not gone forever from us. We will see them again one day. *** I am not preaching to anyone without that belief....just my opinion on faith and the experience I felt the mediums provided for my family who are believers. ***
 
 my2cents2u  18 Oct 2009 14:44
 Add a Comment
 
 
To an extent. Some 'mediums' take it a step further and work a number of different cons that involve a lot more money than 20 pounds.
 
 finsch  17 Oct 2009 18:56
 4 Comments
 
 they do indeed but £20 to make her feel better is worth it in this case. I wasn't quite so pleased that my wife also spent £20 to hear a load of complete claptrap but never mind.
by  StBalders
 17 Oct 2009 19:04
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
I would be scared to go to a medium for this reason. I don't believe in them and don't want to believe in them. So if I went, that means I was weakening toward them, and maybe I would become obsessed in something I know is unhealthy to do.

I have a perfect and foolproof method of finding out what is going to happen. I WAIT. When I see what happens, I think, "Yes, that is what was going to happen." Works unerringly every single time.
 
 tinseldove  19 Oct 2009 23:15
 1 Comment
 
 Guess that would work well for other people too! You could be on to something there dovelady....;-)
by  LordDaniel
 20 Oct 2009 08:59
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
Ambrose Bierce:

"Clairvoyant, n. A person, commonly a woman, who has the power of seeing that which is invisible to her patron, namely, that he is a blockhead."
 
 davidsuggs  19 Oct 2009 13:42
 Add a Comment
 
 
All mediums are charlatans. We shouldn't encourage people to be misguided. Only God knows the unseen.
 
 IdeasMan  18 Oct 2009 17:41
 Add a Comment
 
 
Fear or Faith is the real debate here. Fear comes from the insecurity caused by not knowing what is going on, Inferiority makes a person do things they would not normally do to try to find security, like consulting a medium. Faith is knowing what is going on and trusting God and what His Word says. Clearly God's Word warns us against such things as seeking mediums. There is no way to have faith apart from the one True God and you cannot fake faith. God's Spirit will witness with your spirit and you KNOW it is God. That knowing comes ONLY through Jesus Christ. All other god imitators are demonic strongholds that captivate people through fear, by the lies and doctrines of demons. Using darkness to find answers never ends in a true knowing. Every man feels the need to be reconcilled to God and that need is real, but men look to other things or gods to fill that need. Apart from God you really can't know. Religions are man's way to fake righteousness before God and their works are their hope of God's acceptance. But God does not change his word for religion or do gooders. He made one way, Christ Jesus. Only in Christ do we have power over the devil and the kingdom of darkness. It is not a limited way, it is the only way. Works do not save you. You get saved and then you do works because you want to please your Father and you love all men. You don't tell others they have to do works to get saved, you tell them about the love of Jesus. You also hate evil, not the men who do evil. Government and laws are for the evil, not the righteous. We do what is right for God, not because there is a law. Messing around with the supernatural without wisdom can definitely lead to serious spiritual and natural problems as the devils works are killing, stealing and destroying. He comes as an angel of light, sharing partial truth just so he can get you to give up your right to your own will. We all have a right to become a son of God. (Romans 8) The moment you become a son of God satan is afriad of you instead of you being afraid of him, IF, you have the knowledge of God's Word to bind and loose. Knowledge of your rights as a son of God is important. Satan knows your rights and his only hope to defeat you is to keep you from learning your rights and using the authority of God to put him under your feet. You will serve the devil as a slave if you play in his domain and the spiritualists such as witches (white or dark) warlords, mediums and such serve the Kingdom of Darkness, as do all religions that reject Jesus Christ as God come in the flesh. The demons know your past and all of your ancestors because the familiar demons of the human race can speak and act like the people they are familar with. They know men better than all of the psychology and religions of the world combined. Man's intelligence is limited by darkness. However, men who become a slave of God become men who are free, because where Jesus is there is a Spirit of Liberty. Not liberty to do evil, because choosing evil makes you a slave to evil. Liberty to choose to do good without evil having power over your will. In Jesus we have authority over all of the power of the devil. If this angers you, that is a clue it is not you who is angry too. Arguing with yourself is not true, you are arguing with a lying spirit who uses your first person. You can do what is right before God in Christ and you don't have to argue with any thought. You have power to take your mind captive to truth of God's Word and you have the Mind of Christ where all of the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden for you to find in Christ. Apart from Christ your eyes are blinded by satan and the veil is removed only in Christ. The Kingdom of God is not about eating and drinking, but of righteousness and peace in the Holy Spirit.. Also know this, your emotions are fickle and if your choices have given demons a right to torment you, they use your emotions like a puppeteer uses strings, to drive you to do things you don't want to do. Those who do evil have given up on themselves and given themselves over to the darkness that was not meant for them. All men what is love. It is God's ove that we want and it His will that all be saved, but our free will is totally within our power to choose. Pray for one another so you can be strong to do what is right and then Christ will give them the strength to win against the lying powers of darkness. The demons have power over you only because you choose to believe in the lies they tell you. Seeking wisdom from a medium is a trap of satan to kill, steal and destroy. Rev Ellen Diann Messer, Master of Science in Theology, MS in Scriptural Psychology and MS in Counseling and Psychology. PhD Naturopath Consultant
 
 EllenDiann  18 Oct 2009 15:24
 5 Comments
 
 The funny thing is you are doing exactly the same as the person in question but just through a different medium.
by  StBalders
 18 Oct 2009 15:42
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
I think it's unsafe, mentally speaking, to avoid reality; no matter how cold and grim it may seem everyone must except that whats done is done, especially in terms of the deceased. Anything but the truth will someday, further down the road, act as salt in a re-opened wound.
 
 verum  17 Oct 2009 23:18
 13 Comments
 
 Fair comment. But that is coming from someone who knows the truth. It is impossible for you or I to kid ourselves that there is something in this nonsense because we know better. However if you don't and it helps you, and it doesn't always come back and do you harm then that is fine isn't it?
by  StBalders
 17 Oct 2009 23:50
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
Seeing a professional therapist would cost the same but actually do something for her.
 
 K9  17 Oct 2009 20:27
 9 Comments
 
 What £20? I doubt it, and I shouldn't think a therapist would conclude their work in one session. Besides the whole point here is that it did do something for her regardless of the fact that you and I know that mediums are frauds.,
by  StBalders
 17 Oct 2009 21:24
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Sign In / Sign Up
 For and Against Recent Activity
Related Debates
Willfully Turning Away From The Truth Is Treason To Ones Self.
Miller Is Getting Shriller
Bananas Are So Underrated
It's Pathetic That People Have To Gang Up On Others For No Reason Just To Feel Tough.
The Irish Eurovision Song Should Have Gotten Through To The Semi- Finals
Everyone Should Be Able To Write Articles On This Website.
Most Debates Should Be Generalized.
All Advertisement Should Be Banned.
Porn Is Weird And Smells Odd
Oral Stimulation Of THE Male Organ May Result In Cannibalism
New Debates
It Is Soooooooo Wrong To Call Lesbians *DYKES*
Teenagers Are Not Irresponsible Because Of Media
Voting Should Be Compulsory.
Socially Conservative Goverments Usually Cause An Increase In Aids Infections.
Hispanic (or Of Hispanic Origeon)should Be A Race In The Census.
Obama's "townhall" In Ohio Shows What A Political Monster He Really Is.
Legal Gay Marriage Went Into Effect In Washington DC...its Only A Matter Of Time For The Whole Country...
Paper Vs Plastic
Yellow Paint Is Not Called Red Paint, Rigatoni Is Not Called Ziti, And Likewise, Committed Gay Relationships...
Electric Snarbiddles Are Better Than The Old Fashion Manual Kind, Except When You Go On Vacation.