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Please keep your dog safe. |
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I think my sister's yippy skippy dogs would make excellent bait. |
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I agree with you. Hunting in itself is the best way to control the wild animal population. People in
my state put up a stink about hunting bears with dogs. Now they are screaming about the bears
getting into their trash and running across our roads causing accidents. If they had left it alone
this would not have been a problem. I believe that there is nothing wrong with hunting as long as
you eat the meat. I do not believe it hunting for sport alone. |
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You should be able to use dogs I know people who do in Idaho. I cannot believe the stupidity of
people who think the dog kills the couger. And as far as harming the dog, a dog is just a tool. |
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I agree it would be totally awesome but you would have to have like a pet wolf or something |
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It would be silly to not control populations of dangerous predators. I suspect most on the AGAINST
side live in countries where predators have already been driven extinct and can only be found in
zoos. How is THAT humane? |
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I held off commenting on this for a while in order to let folks have their say. Obviously no one did
ANY research (and by the way, if my moniker was "Researcher" I would do at least some, but
whatever.
Anywho, since it appears none of you plan to do the research, I'll let you benefit from mine. You're
welcome. :)
I'll start with the question. Researcher asks, "Why does any so called civilised person and society
think that causing pain and suffering to another living creature is permissible?" then goes on to
say "It's human interference in the first place with the balance of nature and over- hunting that
caused so many problems."
Here goes: I don't know why civilized people and society think that causing pain and suffering to
another being is permissible. I can only speak for myself. I think in this case it is NECESSARY.
Why? Well the answer to that leads into the second quote I inserted from you. You are EXACTLY
correct...human interference DID cause this problem in the first place. Why is that? Well,
originally we not only competed for the same food, we were also considered the prey of cougars.
That's right, they wanted to EAT us. I don't hold that against them at all. Actually, I don't have
anything against cougars, I just think their population has increased to levels that their territory
can not support, causing conflicts with humans. Since they competed with humans and ate humans,
humans interfered with their population. Like it or not, it's already done. That's the fact. Now it
is up to humans to remain involved with their population size. We have ALREADY affected it. Stepping
out is no better than stepping in in the first place. Suggesting that we just "know where these
animals are likely to be- then keep away from those areas" is ridiculous. Cougars have been seen,
and have made attacks inside the city limits of Los Angeles, CA. We're not just talking about
whatever romantic idea of a countryside you have, we're talking about where humans dwell. Closing
your eyes won't solve the problem, and won't protect anyone. Go hug one and see how it feels about
you.
That's why I'm for it. I'll have to write more later. |
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That can really hurt them
~lollypop |
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Its a good thing it`s risen, we dont own the world and we dont need to kill everything, we keep on
screwing up the world and its numbers |
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How did ANY anamials servive before humans came along and took control of the "problem" ? Nature CAN
take care of itself! All humans have done is cause polution and destroy nature! WE DO NOT NEED TO
KILL EVERYTHING FOR THE SPORT OF IT AND THEN CALL IT CONSERVATION! |
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I think a mountain lion would easily kill a dog. Usually the bigger the dog, the more docile it is,
so by having a saint Bernard would be like giving it the death sentence. |
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I think the animals in those states have more of a right to live there than you anyway. |
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You shouldn't kill animals for a stupid sport |
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Why are you even trying to make this a debate topic?
Fighting them with dogs is another example of how humans abuse animals. I'm sick and tired of it.
It needs to stop!!! |
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No mountain lions are endangered and if you don't care about killing off an endangered species you
are heartless.
You also run the risk of killing the poor dog/s. |
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I am for hunting dogs with mountain lions, what is your stance on that? |
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Felis concolor (Latin for “cat of one color”) has the most widespread big-cat range in the
Western Hemisphere, from Alaska to Patagonia.
Since California enacted a moratorium on killing lions (except by licensed trappers), their
population has soared. Lions are found in the trees of suburban back yards or sleeping under cars in
shopping malls.
To live in mountain lion country is a privilege. Despite being an avid outdoors woman for 35 years,
I have never seen this most-elusive of mammals. But many lions have seen me …
The number of human fatalities from lions in California in the last 150 years is, I believe, two.
Yes, they do attack people, but the incidence is so rare that to repeal the hunting ban would be
inexcusable.
Cougars have a natural antipathy to dogs, killing them without provocation. Hunting lions with dogs
is a sure death sentence -- for the dog. Bravo! |
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I just want to ask who ever made this debate- What is wrong with you? You like the idea of pitting
two animals against each other and watching them kill each other? |
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Mountain lions and dogs are really becoming a problem and a matter of danger for people. Encounters
with these animals are increasing which is taking lives of several human beings who are unable to
protect themselves. The government must take some steps to control this situation. Instead of
hunting and killing these mountain lions and dogs the government must make some arrangements to
restrict the areas where these animals are mainly available and proper security arrangements should
be made in order ensure that human beings do not get closer to them. Hunting in anyway is not a very
acceptable solution as long as some other solution is available. People also should be made very
clear about the fact that they should avoid such places where there are chances to have encounters
with these animals. These places should be restricted with strict security. |
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A mountain lion would beat the heck out of a dog so bad. You shouldn't bring a animal if you know
its going to fight something stronger and get beaten bad. Plus a dog is not a match for a mountain
lion |
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I'd ban the entire hunting of the Puma/Mountain Lion D< It's a terrible waste. |
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Not many dogs would win a fight against a cougar, or mountain lion. |
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I'm against any form of hunting , especially with dogs.
Hunting isn't necessary and it's cruel.
Civilised countries and people are actively working towards banning bloodsports so to re-introduce
them where they are banned is a step backwards for humans and for animals.
Both have rights and it's their right to be protected from cruelty.
What about the poor dogs who are damaged and suffer as a result of hunting with dogs. I rescued a
dog from baiters and he took years to recover - no person has the right to use a dog or any other
animal like that.
It's up to the authorities to warm people in areas where cougars are likely to be found. It's then
up to them to keep away.
Live and let live and appreciate the natural world before we humans make species extinct and lost to
future generations. |
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And I'm against it because it is so cruel to both cougars and dogs.
Hunting any creature, especially with dogs is horrible.
Oregon, Washington and California have shown regard for the animal kingdom by doing this. In UK
hunting with dogs has been made illegal and this, although opposed by many , is the choice of the
majority of civilised people.
Why does any so called civilised person and society think that causing pain and suffering to another
living creature is permissible?
If people know where these animals are likely to be- then keep away from those areas.
It's human interference in the first place with the balance of nature and over- hunting that caused
so many problems.
Hunting these animals with dogs is unacceptable and cruel. The dogs also risk terrible injury and
that's not acceptable either.
The proposer of this and the sealion debate appears to be a strong supporter of hunting, what a
shame. |
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22 Jan 2008 09:43
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