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Hydrogen Power Is The Way To Go
Plant based fuels are inefficient and take from our food supply. Hydrogen and molten sodium are the way to go
 TullFan  05 Mar 2009 02:27
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Its hard to get sometimes, but its better for the environment, so we have to find a way to make it work somehow.
 
 willis94  19 Mar 2009 01:56
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It's much better to the Earth than fossil fuel.
 
 hows_hk  17 Mar 2009 14:40
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 Almost anything is better than fossil fuels, that doesn't mean hydrogen is always the right choice or ever the only choice among alternative energy sources.
by  finsch
 17 Mar 2009 16:02
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It is a lot more effective
 
 14940820  11 Mar 2009 20:48
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Yes it is the most effective way to make energy.
 
 swimmer724  11 Mar 2009 18:11
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High tech isn't the only solution, though it helps.

The cost per square foot for solar panels fell through the floor in 2008 even with the inflated oil market. With a concerted effort, using solar power to perform electrolysis would be cheap and efficient - use the sun to separate hydrogen and oxygen, then burn the hydrogen for power. One big benefit of electrolysis is that polluted water could be used - take out the two wanted gases and the pollutants are left behind. The environment benefits from more than just limiting the use of petroleum.

And then there's the use of hydroelectric power. Small streams on private property can be used to power small waterwheels and generate electricity for individual homes without affecting how those streams feed into rivers.

Www.reuk.co.uk/Building-a-Waterwheel.htm

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cumbria/6221073.stm

www.self-build.co.uk/features/what-is/article/?id=27

Then once you've generated your own electricity and can separate hydrogen and oxygen, why not power your car with hydrogen as well? You can burn hydrogen to create electricity, making your car clean.

If you have a powerful enough stream of water, you can generate 100% of your energy needs. But even if you can do half, that's a huge amount of savings both to your wallet and the environment.
 
 K9  11 Mar 2009 16:33
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 "Then once you've generated your own electricity and can separate hydrogen and oxygen, why not power your car with hydrogen as well? You can burn hydrogen to create electricity, making your car clean.

If you have a powerful enough stream of water, you can generate 100% of your energy needs. But even if you can do half, that's a huge amount of savings both to your wallet and the environment."

That K9 is actually a very good idea. Not a easily done one but I'm sure very possible.
by  Smito
 12 Mar 2009 02:51
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I'm neutral
 
 sanct70  17 Mar 2009 02:24
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Hydrogen isn't as plentiful as you may think. It would probably be better to produce pure water with it versus fuel. And there are other way to make cars move besides gas or hydrogen
 
 gottfried  15 Mar 2009 08:19
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 "Hydrogen isn't plentiful"? Are you eight years old, or just another startlingly uneducated godbot?

The ignorance and/or stupidity it takes for you to say that shows that you deserve a read-only Internet account and should be limited to educational sites.
by  K9
 15 Mar 2009 08:52
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Well i agree its more effective and such and such but is there any reason to ignore these plant and wind resources just because there's a better source? I mean when we have that food surplus we can either sell it or turn it to energy, which in most cases we sell it for national debt : (. Now what about plant waste? I mean we have all these fungus destroyed crops and to low quality crops that we can use to produce this extra energy at little cost. However wind on the other hand is the best source of energy, in my opinion. It causes very little effect on the environment, bring on the very few bird death whines, and the only real thing spent is time to repair and keep the towers in condition. The drawback however is the cost of the towers which can be rather high.
Hydrogen power is great and efficient but to tell you the truth is about as bad on the environment as cars. OK first of all hydrogen cars are powered by a fuel cell. These days this hydrogen is usually produced either by coal, nuclear power, oil, or natural gas. All of these can and do cause negative effects on the environment and nuclear power has a tendency to create waste that cannot be gotten rid of for many many years, a few hundred if i remember correctly. However there are many nice things about it. For one there is a clean way to produce hydrogen. By sending electricity through water to separate the oxygen and hydrogen which can then be saved for later. But there lies a problem. Hydrogen is, not difficult per se, but not easy to store and very hard to keep stored.
This is what I'm going to say: Each and every form of energy production has its advantages and disadvantages and for this I say we should use them all to our advantage. In the words of the great sophocle's antigone" The toughest iron cracks first" one has to be flexible in order to be successful.
 
 Smito  12 Mar 2009 02:50
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 Although biofuel may be a good resource, but if every country uses biofuel to generate electricity, then the supply may be a problem because they are not very efficient(just like fossil fuel). For wind power, it can't work when there are too strong winds, and, as you mentioned it is not cheap. But the most important problem is that is produces many noises, but the thing is that you can't built them too far from the city, because the electricity loss is huge. On the other hand, nuclear fusion use deuterium(Hydrogen-2) and tritium(Hydrogen-3) and it generates a lot of electricity, even much more than nuclear fission(which I have mentioned somewhere on the top of this page), so I think hydrogen is good.
by  hows_hk
 07 Apr 2009 14:49
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Any real effort to remove ourselves from fossil fuel dependence will require a lot of different answers. Answers that will likely be based on the available resources of a specific area, for example an area with good geothermal sources of energy might well use the heat to purify hydrogen. An area with a certain land use capabilities might well tend towards plant based fuel. Don’t fool yourself all alternative energy sources have their own associated problems, and no one choice out there right now is going to fix everything. Unfortunately it still takes more energy to purify hydrogen than the hydrogen provides. Molten sodium used in creating high density rechargeable batteries is also still problematic primarily due to the operating temperatures involved and the energy stored in them still has to come from somewhere. Ethanol only barely creates an energy surplus with current technology, somewhere around 125% depending on how far you transport it. Wind turbines are erratic, expensive to maintain, and usually far from the endpoint user, not to mention they tend to be hard on migratory bird populations. Geothermal sources are rare and dangerous and expensive to maintain. Oceanic current turbines have the same problem. Solar panels are expensive and environmentally problematic to make. Everything has its price and all these technologies are still being developed. To restrict ourselves to just one would be foolish in the extreme.
 
 finsch  08 Mar 2009 22:34
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