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Your overall debate topic here is interesting, but your post in the For column is far too militant
for me.
This is a complex answer for me. On the one hand I'm Pro-Choice - I believe women have a right to
choose the fate of their bodies and what's in it, and I believe there are sanctioned forms of
killing in society anyway, so regardless of whether an embryo meets the human life criteria I'm
still pro-choice. AND after that embryo is aborted and/or if it is miscarried I think it's
acceptable to do research because it's already dead and there's no reason to make it a total
waste.
HOWEVER, on the other hand, I think creating embryos solely for the purpose of research is indeed
wrong even if you terminate that life before it has a chance to grow to a term. And as I did a
quick search before posting this I ran across this article:
Http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article3204128.ece Apparently some of this research
involves almost complete human genetic material inserted into another species' egg. What?! And
that bypasses ethical issues how?! Give me a break. Coming up with that variation on the
experiments completely feeds the fears of those who oppose human embryogenesis experimentation.
So in conclusion, ladies I'm for your right to choose regardless of the definition of when an embryo
becomes a human life, but gentleman I can't condone creating embryos whether human or human and
animal hybrids for the sake of your research.
And may I request as some of you slam me for this that you at least focus on the human embryogenesis
part of this topic because face it we've gone round and round on the when does an embryo become a
human life debate many times before. It's the embryogenesis research part of this post which is new
and interesting. |
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The scientific right have had their sixties, their unreigned activism and Frankinstein
experimentation, their radicalism, their 'counter-(barbaric)-culture'. It is time for society as a
whole to get militant. What is moral conservatism these days if it isn't a society who are prepared
to counter act the babaric experimentation of human embryogenesis? |
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I don’t consider a cell to be a human being. And since murder constitutes as the intentional
killing of a human being, I don’t view such experiments as being murder (or unlawful for that
matter). With all the technological advances and the ever-increasing knowledge about human anatomy,
it will soon be possible, likely within the next decade, to create stem cells without destroying a
human embryo. Although, the combining of human DNA into the egg of a cow does seem a bit strange to
me. |
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Again, one of the religious proudly displays his ignorance.
The ova which are used in stem cell research are donated, either by women who let doctors remove
them from their uterus or from women and couples who no longer want their eggs stored in fertility
clinics.
If the women who volunteer didn't give their egss, their bodies would dispose of them naturally. If
those using fertility clinics didn't donate the eggs, they would be thawed and destroyed, not used
for in vitro treatments. In both cases, the eggs would never become human beings because they
would never be fertilized in the women's bodies.
It's amazing how wilfully ignorant he godbots can be, how unwilling they are to do even the most
basic research and learn a few facts. |
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To some extent this is an irreducible argument. If you believe that a blastocyst is a person while I
don’t then it is clear you will feel the experimentation is murder and I won’t. No amount of
dancing is going to get us past that simple fact. Now personally I’m not that big of a supporter
of that research because it mostly involves fertility and I think we need to have fewer babies not
more. This kind of research has helped us to have the biggest baby boom in America since the baby
boom itself. However I don’t see it as murder I just lack faith in our ability to use the research
wisely. |
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You have to define what is a human life, an embryo is not a human being so you can't say an act of
murder is being committed when they are experimented on. I fully support embryo research and believe
that by furthering this research it allows progression into the future and general improvement for
human society in terms of science and the medical practise. |
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