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Homosexuals Deal With More Repression And Oppression Than Any Other Group In Our Society Today.

Most stay in the closet their whole lives, some try to live in a way that will not offend and that they will blend, and those who are out are discriminated abused and oppressed in general.

innomen

20 Apr 2008 22:14

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Gays are definitely towards the top of the scale, but it's getting better.

Specter87

17 Sep 2008 04:15

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Apparently, homosexuality is simply something that some people don’t accept due to the difference between it and their own lifestyle. I’m not necessarily surprised that discrimination is so popular now a days, since people seem unable to accept the fact that everyone is not the same in sexuality, belief, or standards of living.

Hizashi

21 Apr 2008 00:20

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All western societies--even the most socially liberal ones--are still designed to accommodate heterosexuals and place gays at a relative disadvantage. Child adoption practices and issues of inheritance in the case of gay couples still reveal significant discrimination in North America and in much of Europe.

Even if most people shy away from overt homophobia in public, their private thoughts are a different matter and biases are often given expression when they use words like "gay" as a pejorative to describe certain negative characteristics about people who are not openly homosexual. It is highly unlikely that adults would use a derogatory word for African Americans when they find something or someone to be disagreeable, but they are still likely to call them "gay."

mackenzie

21 Apr 2008 00:15

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I agree. And a lot of people make jokes about gay people. I think they're definitely treated differently, but that's not always a bad thing. I trust gay guys more than straight guys, for the most part. I don't know why, but I think it might be first impressions. ALL the ones I've ever met are clean-shaven and their shirts aren't wrinkled and they look like nice, approachable people. Of course there are straight guys like that, but I've met more gay men like that than straight men. I just TRUST them more, so call me prejudiced but I think treating them differently isn't always a bad thing.

And thank you, innomen. :) I take your words to heart.

veggiefry

20 Apr 2008 23:55

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You're a nice straight lady. You made me laugh. -don't change.

innomen

21 Apr 2008 21:10

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It is indeed harder for a gay person who is out to succeed in our culture than pretty much any other minority group in our society. Even among other minority groups gays are bashed and treated horribly. Things said behind the back of a gay person is pretty much expected.

innomen

20 Apr 2008 22:17

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No.

Homosexuals get less flack than Blondes do.
Blondes should get to carry police-billy-clubs to wack dumb-blonde-Jokesters ;-)

Scorpion

26 Jul 2008 20:03

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If that were true I wouldn't be alive right now.

Specter87

17 Sep 2008 04:14

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While gays are still victims of intolerance, atheists have surpassed them as the most hated for the most idiotic reasons.

28 Apr 2008 03:54

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Do you have evidence to support that? I don't see so many incidents of atheist bashing.

innomen

29 Apr 2008 21:25

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I suppose with any group of any kind, it depends where abouts in the world you go, whether it is suppressed or not.

Shizenk

24 Apr 2008 21:26

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What about Christians?
We are living in a world where, in a while, Bibles will be banned.
We will no longer be able to go to church and worship God.
It's already happening in China.
What do gay people have that we can take away?
Your right to get married?
Your right to adopt children?
What if you were killed because of who you are, or what you believed in?
It's happening in China.
It will happen here.

im_trumpet

21 Apr 2008 13:13

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Do you live in China. I doubt it. So China is not our society. It is written in big blue letters in the title.

StBalders

21 Apr 2008 13:16

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Perhaps Christians were a suppressed minority in the roman times but they are certainly not now. Firstly they are by no means a minority in this world. It is a well known fact that Christianity is the largest religion in the world, from research I read that 33% of the worlds population was Christian (though you can do your own if you wish). Their swelling numbers alone would suggest that they are not suppressed, however you say they are more so than homosexuals, though you rarely hear of a closet Christian do you? You cannot say simply because it is becoming less common that religious ways are taught to be the right way that the religion in question is being discriminated against.

added: Apologies if I offended anyone, I guess it hit a nerve I think with any minority/majority issue, it depends where abouts in the world you go. There are probably parts in the world where christians are in fact suppressed and have to go into secrecy. Though they are a majority in many countries the west.

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“We are living in a world where, in a while, Bibles will be banned.”

According to whom or what source will this event occur within the near future?

“We will no longer be able to go to church and worship God.”

Once again, according to whom or what source will this event occur?

“It's already happening in China.”

So? What makes you think it will happen in the United States (if that’s the country you’re referring to)? China and the U.S. are very different.

“What do gay people have that we can take away? Your right to get married? Your right to adopt children?”

You make it sound as if taking these things away from homosexuals is justifiable simply because of their sexuality. If this is the case, why should anyone care what is taken away from Christians simply because of their religion (even though nothing you‘ve stated so far is even remotely true)?

“What if you were killed because of who you are, or what you believed in?”

Actually, to a very significant degree, the Bible achieved its large circulation by conquest, not merit. Native cultures were subjugated or murdered by Christian missionaries, and their works were destroyed. Even still today, many so-called Christians try to force the Bible on others through political dominance; for example, by trying to get it taught in science classes within public school systems. Don’t attempt to ignore Christianity’s forceful past actions, and present actions in quite a few incidents, by pretending as though you’re a victim in this situation. You should be quite thankful that you're allowed such a privilege as freedom of religion in this country, which is much more than what other countries offer.

“It's happening in China. It will happen here.”

What reason do you have for reaching that conclusion? China and the United States (if that is indeed the country you’re referring to) are completely different. What happens in one place isn’t guaranteed in another. For example, if a group of gang members in Atlanta, Georgia murder another group of gang members in Atlanta, Georgia, does that mean that the same event is guaranteed to occur within Dallas, Texas?

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it's not stupid!!!
you can't take a Bible over to China, or you will be arrested.
those who have church underground in China are risking being tortured because that's what they do to those who get caught.
it's not a good thing.  it means that people are getting tortured because they are trying to do what is right.
our purpose as christians is to know God and to tell others about him.
i agree that we shouldn't force our religion on you, but if people would just take the time to listen to what we have to say, i believe that we could change your minds.
I'm not telling you that you have to believe in God. All I'm saying is that you should give us a chance to be a witness to those who will listen.
all I'm asking for is a chance.

prayer is aloud in schools and it should be kept that way.  FREEDOM OF RELIGION. as long as we aren't hurting anyone, we should be able to pray where ever, when ever we want.
you gays ( if you in fact are one ) are aloud to hold hands and kiss in public, what's the difference? we are practicing our religion by praying, and you are practicing your, whatever you want to call it.
if you have the right, you shouldn't try to take away our rights.

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Homosexuality is illegal in far more countries than Christianity is illegal in and often carries a long jail sentence or the death penalty.

Where praying in school is concerned people can pray whenever they want - I'm not saying to stop it. My objection is to collective prayer. We had to have a "Christian" school assembly when i was in school. We had to pray before food also. - This is not correct.

Us gays (if I am In fact one) should be allowed to hold hands and kiss in public, if you straights (if you are in fact one) are allowed to do it.
The difference is that pray as part of school policy is forcing Christian belief on others. Us gays (if I am In fact one) do not run around and force hetrosexual men to kiss men, and women to kiss women.

It's not about taking away rights - it's about insuring everyone is fairly treated. Having religion forced on others is not fair. Being able to kiss in public is.

As a side note your tone in the last paragraph is perhaps one reason i won't be witnessed to. I'd rather have a broad open minded approach to the world than an overtly prejudiced one.

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Transexuals have it even worse. Their predicament is similar, I suppose, but even more extreme.

You could say the same about sado-masochists. Witness the recent brouhaha over the FIA director Mosley, who was revealed to have engaged in consensual sado-masochism. There were public calls for his resignation. He was uninvited to a race meeting in Dubai. Would this have happened if he was gay?

Also in many countries where magical beliefs are held almost universally, those who reject them experience an even more extreme ostracism than gays. There are more openly gay politicians in America, for example, than there are acknowledged atheists.

Hidell

21 Apr 2008 03:03

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In countries where atheism was institutionalized like red China and the Soviet Union, homosexuality was far from accepted, if not outright persecuted.

Your point on transexuals is pretty accurate, but far less wide spread because their numbers are tiny, and sado masochists i don't know that they are even considered a minority group.

innomen

21 Apr 2008 10:46

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20 years ago I would have agreed.

But now, in the UK, I would have to disagree. Gay people are generally very successful, just look at the government and the BBC for proof. It probably actually helps in some sectors to be gay. They will encounter some discrimination just as virtually every other group in society does at some point, some of this discrimination will have a particularly nasty edge. As for having things said behind their backs - who doesn't get that.

StBalders

20 Apr 2008 22:40

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Yes things are much better than they once were, but they are better for everyone in a minority status. Perhaps illegal aliens have it worse, but even among them gays are bashed. In certain areas of the states it is much worse than other areas, and i know that is also the case in Europe. Ireland, Italy, Greece are all pretty bad in this area. England is probably better than most but how is Scottland?

innomen

20 Apr 2008 22:50

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