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Hitler Was A Christian

The religious wing-nuts like to claim that Hitler was an atheist. It helps bolster their world view. In fact, there is no evidence that Hitler was an atheist and plenty of evidence that he was a Christian. To maintain he was an atheist, you have to pretty much discount everything that he actually said. He often spoke of doing the "Lord's work" or working on behalf of the "Almighty Creator". He declared he was a catholic. Denying Hitler's Christianity is the moral equivalent of holocaust denial and the Christians should be ashamed of it.

Hidell

20 Apr 2008 19:12

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Hitler was religious (just not REALLY religious). In fact, the Nazi cross came from a church that Hitler lived near as a boy. If you look into his history, it wouldn't be going too far to say that he was a tiny bit Jewish (ironic, huh?).

bookworm3

24 Nov 2008 22:37

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He was a christian, just not a very good one. He was like Mel Gibson, just he did something about the Jews, not just yell wildly at them while intoxicated.

wallaceg12

05 Nov 2008 17:43

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Hitler WAS a Catholic, yes. A Christian-christian? No way.

Scorpion

15 Jul 2008 02:01

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I'm a christian, and can see both sides of this debate, but:
1) Hitler was probably a christian
2) he was psychotic
3) Christians believe that everyone is equal
4) it was his own hate towards the Jews that made him do what he did, not his religion.

im_trumpet

21 Apr 2008 13:33

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It’s no doubt that Hitler was an unstable person. His religious views seemed obvious in his public speeches, but appear to be mixed during private conversations. However, what isn’t disputable among historians is the fact that Hitler was not an atheist. It’s prominently expressed that he was, in fact, a religious person. Most historical references site Hitler as being a religious fascist. Whether or not he was Christian is still unclear, although many quotes from the man himself appear to place him under that particular category. "As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice". With all this stated, however, I'll still have to agree with Sceptic101 that Christianity is poorly defined.

Hizashi

20 Apr 2008 23:16

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Well that's not really fighting for truth if you just said that it is unclear that he is a Christian. You may be a fighter, but not for truth in that post. You are just a bigot, which is okay too.

innomen

20 Apr 2008 23:20

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There isn't any question that Hitler was a Christian, nor that anti-Semitism has a long history in Germany, going back all the way to Martin Luther, who openly taught that the Jews should be thrown from their homes and if they didn't like it, they could whine to their God.

Further, not only was Hitler a Christian, but the Catholic Church openly supported Hitler until it became a bad public relations move to do so. Even so, after the war, the Catholic Red Cross was instrumental in smuggling Nazi war criminals out of Germany to avoid prosecution.

Whether or not Stalin was an atheist is really irrelevant. Stalin never said he was killing people in the name of atheism, nor that atheism had any impact on his policies. Hitler said very plainly that he believed God had told him to exterminate the Jews.

Cephus

20 Apr 2008 20:42

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To be a Christian, i think you need to accept Christ as your savior, i don't see a whole lot of evidence to support that. Publicly you can say what you need to say, but that doesn't make you a Christian.

innomen

20 Apr 2008 23:35

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Hitler certainly considered himself a Christian.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”  –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.  It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth!  was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.  In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.  How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison.  To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross.  As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice…  And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."  –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed.  The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

The only accounts we have of private religious conversations that I'm aware of also confirm that he considered himself a Christian.  What Hitler may have thought internally is unknown so claiming he didn't consider himself a Christian because you don't like the fact that he publically proclaimed himself to be one is a bit ludicrous.

He said he believed, he acted like he believed, the Church treated him like he believed, therefore unless you can come up with definitive proof that he didn't believe, we have to go by what he said.

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That Hitler was an atheist is one of the bible-believers favourite rhetorical points. In fact, it is completely false.
The scientist Stephen Jay Gould maintains a helpful page with quotes from the Fuhrer in which he affirms his Christian faith. "
we should never tolerate the lie that Hitler was an atheist again. Christians should acknowledge the iniquities for which their faith is historically responsible. Anything else is the equivalent of holocaust denial.

Hidell

20 Apr 2008 19:29

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What makes someone a Christian? Because someone says it publicly does it make it so? I am not so sure.

innomen

20 Apr 2008 22:35

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Saying Hitler was not a Christian is like saying Hitler didn't kill six million jews. Revisionism is disgusting regardless of its form.

The Christians are so willing to apply Nazi tactics (e.g. Goebbel's "tell the lie often enough and people will believe it") that it shouldn't surprise that Hitler was a Christian.

Over the years, I've heard garbage like:
"Hitler was a Jew!"
"Hitler was an atheist!"
"Hitler was a homosexual!"
"Hitler was a liberal!"

And so on. Every single time it was repeated, it was said by extremist Christians who didn't want to be associated with someone who was so politically close to themselves. They only stopped saying it when the lie was no longer popularly accepted.

No atheist would ever deny that Stalin was an atheist, so why do Christians constantly deny Hitler's Christianity? Because if they don't, when a Christian says, "All atheists are Stalinists!" the logical extension is, "All Christians are Nazis".

The Christians want to paint others with a broad swath but become rabid and feign offence when others do the same to them, even when it's true.

20 Apr 2008 19:23

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A true Christian wouldn't do that.

webman1200

11 Oct 2008 19:44

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Hitler wasn't a true Christian.

bookworm3

24 Nov 2008 22:35

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He used the faith of Christians to "bolster" his agenda, but if he was a Christian, it was only in name. No Crusader or Nazi who killed Jews because of their rejection of "Jesus" or very existence is a real Christian, since the Bible says a Christian is supposed to love all and "by their fruit you will know them."
I don't think he was an atheist. The so-called Aryan faith has elements of other religions, it seems, so that was not very atheistic of him.

It's impossible to belong to the King of the Jews when you hate Jews.

Stranger

01 Oct 2008 18:10

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Saying Hitler wasn't a christian is like saying Stalin wasn't an atheist. Saying christianity wasn't part of Nazism is like saying the Nazis didn't murder six million jews.

Revisionism is ugly and reprehensible in all its forms.

05 Oct 2008 09:58

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He was raised a catholic and later went off his own religious beliefs that he was intended to create his own perfect race.

sunshine26

03 Jul 2008 05:07

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He may have carried the label, but was definitely not a Bible believing Christian.

weep4souls

27 May 2008 05:21

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The whole Holocaust thing really supports this ridiculous claim...

DTigers7

19 May 2008 19:29

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It does indeed since the Christian churches had been nurturing anti-Semitic hatred for centuries. Most of them had explicitly anti-semitic phrases in their liturgies which were only removed in the last few decades. I believe the Orthodox church still has anti-semitic phrases in its liturgy.

Hidell

19 May 2008 19:39

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Even though Hitler may has professed to be a Christian and I don't really know if he did or not. A Christian is supposed to be one who is following Christ. OBVIOUSLY Hitler was not doing what Christ would have done. Unstable....a gross understatement. If someone goes crazy, is it the parents fault? You might say sometimes, but NO religion would condone what he did...

stever

17 May 2008 20:03

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He was no Christian. He explicitly stated that Christianity is evil because it was "an invention of the Jew" or something like that. Also, slaughtering 12 million Jews doesn't sound very Christian, does it?

Mark

30 Apr 2008 01:01

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Some say he was and some say he wasn't. No one really knows for a fact unless you actually studied him.

celva_olva

29 Apr 2008 02:24

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I have. He was. Deal with it.

Hidell

29 Apr 2008 12:15