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Hillary Would Prefer McCain To Win Over Obama
Hillary doesn't care about what happens to her own party or the country. She'd prefer that the repugs won in November than that Obama did. She knows McCain will be the oldest newly inaugurated president ever so there's a good chance he'd croak or retire on medical grounds during or after his first term. That would give Hillary another chance in 2012. If Obama wins, Hillary will be in her 70s before she gets another chance. Hillary knows she can't beat Obama but she will stay in the race to damage him.
 Hidell  26 Mar 2008 15:04
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For many years, Hillary has been a bugbear to American right wingers. Those on the leftwards end of the spectrum found this hard to understand at the time, but now I think many are beginning to see her in the same way. She is, as one of Obama's advisers inadvertently let slip, a "monster". She is prepared to destroy her own party and to let the Republicans in again all in pursuit of her own selfish ambition.

I viewed a Hillary candidacy with equanimity before. Like most, I was resigned to the fact that she would inevitably be the democratic nominee. I thought that many of her votes and actions in the senate were overly respectful of Bush and the demagogic positions he took. But I was prepared to believe that, deep down, she was a better person than she appeared to be, and that the positions she took as a senator were no more than part of a long-range carefully-coordinated presidential campaign. In other words, I expected her to be a better president that she was a senator.

I have since become utterly disenchanted with her, however. She is an absolute disgrace. I have never seen a candidate for either of the two major American parties behave so appallingly and so selfishly. She and her husband have effectively endorsed McCain over Obama several times now, and she clearly wants to do everything she can to hamstring Obama's candidacy. Her own advisers have conceded in interviews that she now has no more than a 5% chance of winning the nomination. She remains in the contest, as someone else observed, to take the Tonya Harding approach to the presidential race.
 
 Hidell  31 Mar 2008 22:53
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If Hillary Clinton loses the nomination, she will not get another chance to run again in 2012. I do, however, agree that deep down inside, Hillary may prefer to see McCain win, if she loses the nomination to Obama, but not because she wants to damage her country, destroy her party or because she has developed a sudden affinity to Republican politics. Hillary is simply human, like the rest of us, and after a very bitter, acrimonious battle and an eventual loss to Obama, she may, indeed, resent her party and, as revenge, prefer to see McCain win. In Hillary's mind, this would prove that she was right all along, when she claimed that Obama will not be able to win over large, industrial states with significant white working-class populations.

There is obviously no love lost between Hillary and Obama; just watch any of the debates when they are sitting less than a meter from each other and you can sense the uncomfortable tension. The two of them simply don't like each other. When Hillary recently 'defended' Obama by saying that he was never a Muslim "as far as I know," this became clear as day. In contrast, Hillary seems to like McCain as a person, so there is no surprise if she would prefer to see him in the White House.
 
 mackenzie  26 Mar 2008 15:29
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 I think that even if I were to give in to the fact that she might dislike, even though I disagree, she would be foolhardy to switch parties and want Jon McCain as the candidate.
If we were to look at this from a humanistic perspective, assuming she is truly altruistic, then she would not support the GOP in any case because they don't stand for the same moral principles that the Democrats do. Democrats are all about helping those who are disenfranchized the most, whereas the GOP is all about letting people help themselves. Given her track record of continuously supporting women's and children's rights and all those who continue to be disenfranchized I doubt this would hardly be her party of choice.

Secondly if we were to look at this from an opportunistic point of view, which many claim that she is, then this also would not be a wise move. Her family has gained a lot of political capital vested in the Democratic party, it would be foolish to throw it away because she is upset. Let's not forget that she still has the opportunity to accomplish a lot. Finally I don't think her husband would let her, because like I said they both have a lot of vested political capital within the party.
by  DowpE1
 30 Mar 2008 04:46
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You know what... I never looked at Hillary's campaign as the last chance she has... That must be where all this sudden support is coming from like a politics Susan Lucci, all the same... That is all i can think of when i look at Hillary is insincerity and preplanned speeches... Not just unconvincing and preoccupied if not contrite... I do believe she supports obama though, she's thoroughly a democrat, but i believe there are women more deserving for the title of first woman president, which may be a trite way of looking at a person's future, but mccain's death would certainly not be anymore guaranteed than barack's... This is a funner debate than i thought it would be... That poor woman needs some rest
 
 characters  16 Apr 2008 08:42
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There are a couple of assertions that you are making that make your arguments flat out wrong.

1) That Hillary Clinton is going to lose the primaries. Now although she is behind in both pledged delagets and total Delegetas that doesn't mean that she is completely out of the race.

2) That McCain would do a HORRIBLE job at being president of the United States.

Now Although I'm not saying that JMac would do a great job he would definitely do a better job at dealing with the war in Iraq. Even if he isn't able to calm the ME situation down all he would have to do is a better job than Bush and say that he has improved the situation.

Secondly you forget the fact that JMac is a pretty liberal cat which means that a lot of his domestic policies would be a lot like a DEMS which would be what the PEOPLE want a the moment

Basically your argument is premised on the idea that Obama would serve two terms and John McCain would probably serve only one. I think that the fact that all he has to do is be a better Pres than bush, which my retarded pet monkey would be able to do, only serves to effectively refute all of your arguments.
 
 DowpE1  30 Mar 2008 04:39
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I disagree - but then again I am from the UK! I think that it is a true sign of democracy when there is a genuine race for power - look at the docile UK Govt allowing Blair to pass the baton onto Brown! I agree that in future they may wish to plan ahead for such events - it does seem that the issue is becoming polarized around Obama's colour than his competency. Clinton has only herself to blame if she is going to get drawn on private issues such as his alleged religious beliefs (but then again the US agenda does seem to be disproportionately swayed by religious matters).
 
 JulieR  26 Mar 2008 20:10
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