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Treating others like humans that have rights is far more important that worrying about money. I've
noticed that most arguments against universal health care boil down to "No! It will cost *gasp!*
MONEY!!!" |
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 Mark  30 Apr 2008 22:51
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A person's health is the most important thing in their life. Without health, no one can do anything.
Therefore, health care should be available for every single human being regardless of citizenship
status. I believe that it is stupid not to offer someone proper health care based on the fact that
they are not from a particular place. Every human has equal rights to quality healthcare.
Not only should healthcare be available to all human being regardless of their citizenship status;
it should also be given free of charge. Many people around the world cannot afford healthcare and
are in desperate need of it. All health care should be given free to every single human being on
Earth. |
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Health care is something that has to available to anyone who needs it , regardless of status.
A Ghanaian woman has been deported from a Cardiff hospital after receiving treatment for cancer. She
was deported after her visa expired, although she still needs vital treatment.
It seems heartless in the extreme to deport such people. She was given hope and has now had that
taken from her by heartless officialdom.
The head of the Commons Home Affairs Committee has taken issue with the Border and Immigration
Service over the case.
He has stated that it he is expecting them to rethink nad accused them of being uncompassionate.
The case is a shocking example of how uncompassionate officials can be.
Health care and life saving medical care should be for all people who need it and to do other wise
goes totally against all human compassion and what the health services are about.
Yes, perhaps it does seem unfair that people can come here illegally and take advantage of the
system but exceptions should be made for the very ill and those who's lives depend on our services. |
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Health care should be provided to anyone, regardless of citizenship or residence status, if the
individual's life is at risk. Providing this care is not only a matter of compassion, but it is also
at the heart of civil society.
Maintaining a civil society costs money and it also means that we have compassion even for those who
broke the law or are perceived to have abused the system. Additionally, it is part of a physician's
oath that a doctor provide health care services--to the best of his/her ability--to anyone who is
deemed to be ill.
The debate over whether or not illegal aliens should be permitted access to health care has heated
up in the United States as well, and many have pointed out that not treating someone who has
contracted a potentially deadly illness--such as tuberculosis--could endanger public health and
safety. |
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Perhaps the US should provide for all nations that are unable to support themselves? What logic is
that. Moral obligation to what extent and to what end. We supply foods to countries that hate us,
we supply goods and services to countries that exploit our open society. We allow and support
illegal immigrants streaming across our borders that do not participate in our system legally, and
we are obligated. That is the same as a homeless person knowkcing on your door and stating that you
are obligated to take care of them, I say open your door and do so, become a non-for profit and
share your wealth. Compassion is empathy, and understanding, not blind stupidity. Teach them to
fish you saint, don'd feed them. What ever happened to self determination, self responsibility,
self respect, culpability? |
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I agree that compassion must rule, if someone is sick in a life threatening manner, they should be
helped..... BUT common sense says NO government can KEEP paying for 20 to 30 million illegal aliens
( this is a more accurate estimate, look it up) that have come across the US borders. Therefore,
keeping compassion in mind, when they are not sick, send them back and close the door. I'm sorry
but people in other countries are just going to have to deal with their corrupt politicians and get
more jobs in their own country, the US Can't do it all. |
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When do we start worrying about the people who live here? I think the ones that should get
healthcare FREE are the true natives of America.. Not the ones who are illegal. |
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Absolutely not. If you do not have a legal right to be here, especially if you are violating the
law of the land by being here, then you should not get free services at all. Certainly there are
exceptions for those in other countries who are given either free or discounted medical attention
for rare diseases, but just walking into the emergency room off the street doesn't qualify. |
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I don't think so, if that were so then why is it so important to have borders and laws, that's like
saying that sure come over, we don't care. |
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Until or unless it can be shown how these people can pay back those medical bills, I will have to
be AGAINST them getting free medical care. If they want to use societies resources, they should
contribute to that society in some way. If there is a defined way of these folks helping pay back
their hospital bill, I would be happy to be FOR this. |
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I don't think that's really practical. As soon as the policy was officially announced, we'd
obviously start getting "health tourism". People who were desperately ill in countries where they
had no access to sophisticated medical attention would fly in for weekend holidays in Britain, then
suddenly discover they had some terrible disease and present themselves at the nearest NHS hospital
for treatment.
The NHS is already over-strained in trying to treat British people. It will become more so in the
years ahead as the population ages and fattens. Throwing open our doors to the Third World would
just overwhelm the system completely. |
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I don’t see why the UK taxpayer should pick up the tab for a bunch of freeloaders. The NHS is
already stretched to near breaking-point by the legitimate demands placed upon it without adding to
the burden by treating people who have no right to be in the country in the first place.
This may seem harsh, but it is the only way to prevent immigrants coming to this country with the
sole purpose of taking advantage of free NHS health treatment.
All too often we hear people bleating on about rights this and rights that. There’s hardly ever
any mention of people’s responsibilities. With rights come responsibilities.
If people want to enjoy the full benefits of being a UK citizen then they should do just that –
become a UK citizen. And, hopefully, make some contribution to the pot by becoming a taxpayer. It
doesn’t seem like a lot to ask. |
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I'm not sure that we can afford to give free health treatment to everyone who comes here
illegally.
Yes we do have to be compassionate and that's what health Care's about but this often leads to
resentment and bad feelings.
We still have one of the best free health services in the world and it's this that makes our system
attractive to everyone. It also means that we are open to abuse of the system.
People here who are paying into the system through taxes and other contributions, I think, they
accept that those who are less able to contribute should benefit too. I don't think this goodwill
always extends to illegal residents.
In the case highlighted I think an exception should be made as this woman had had a visa and because
of her treatment this ran out. It seems very cruel to deny her further hope and treatment under
those circumstances.
There should be occasional exceptions to any rule and individual circumstances differ but I think
that overall we have to draw a line somewhere or our resources and services will be overstretched
financially and everyone will suffer, especially in areas where there are a lot of illegal incomers. |
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