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| Great Britain Is Being Dragged Down By The United States |
| They dragged us into the Iraq war, took us into Afghanistan, spell all our words wrong and pronounce them incorrectly, and honestly believe it was them who won the second world war. It started in 1939 not when you gegged in. |
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Yes, Britain's decision to align itself with America so closely at the end of the Second World War
was, in retrospect, profoundly misguided. Churchill had the naive notion of an "empire of the
English-speaking peoples". He underestimated American power, and overestimated Britain's. It's clear
that many British people derived great psychological satisfaction from the closeness of their
country's relationship with America, and that, to a great extent, this compensated for the
unravelling of the empire and the loss of prestige and influence this entailed. This was the wrong
response, however.
France underwent the same process but responded to it in a different way, by defining itself
differently from American and insisting on doing its own thing, becoming a semi-detached member of
NATO and working to build up the European Union. In retrospect, I think we can say that France was
right and Britain was wrong. Instead of cozying up to America, we should have worked more closely
with France to share military technology and integrate our own defence structures.
Even though the current French president, the ridiculous Sarkozy, has disowned many of France's
traditional policies and adopted a more British-style approach, he was wrong to do so. France made
the right choices and Britain made the wrong ones. |
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Clearly a well thought out argument. |
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Thank you so much 4 making us Americans feel so warm and loved and special there, Emsuz.
What a warm welcome into the British family-side of this site :-( |
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Well you guys would be the expert on decaying empires, but I would think you would be a little less
snarky about it considering your own rather spotted history in that regard. And while it’s true
that the contributions of many nations were necessary to win the second world war, you have to admit
that if Germany had held off on invading the USSR and America had maintained its isolationists
stance then the war would have most likely ended quite differently. So if you feel the UK is going
down hill take responsibility for your own country. That’s what I spend every day here in the U.S
trying to do and I get pretty fed up with this holier than thou attitude from people whose countries
were just as big of a-holes when their countries had the power. |
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Actually, the United States and the USSR together won the Second World War. Britain put up an
impressive defence of its own territory, but it obviously could not liberate continental Europe from
Hitler, while the French bowed out on day one. As for Afghanistan--Britain is present there because
it is a key NATO member and it frankly has a role to play there, just like all NATO member states.
Under Sarkozy's much more sensible regime, the French have come to realize that as well.
On the whole, Britain's relationship with the US has been salutary for both sides. Maintaining these
transatlantic ties has strengthened the UK's position when it comes to opting out of certain aspects
of European integration, including the Schengen Zone, as British politicians can continue to argue
that they have other strong political alliances to maintain.
The point about Americans misspelling words (like 'colour') and not pronouncing them properly must
be tongue-in-cheek and gave me a good laugh. I don't think that Britons need the services of the
Americans when it comes to the bastardization of the English language. Just pick up your "tea" at
the local chippy, keep your ears open to the pronunciation and you'll know what I mean. |
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Have you ever taken into consideration that your saying and misspelling our word wrong!
The us didn't drag Great Britain into Iraq the country had a decision to make and they chose to go
to Iraq. The Us has just as much people going, including my sister and my two brothers |
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Unfortunately the US is having problems and it is affecting the whole world not just the UK. What
is needed is a separate and competing system in Europe so that the onus of pricing is not beneficial
to one nations greed at the sufferance of the rest of the world, we only have to look at petrol
pricing to see the differences in action.
I wont get into the argument on WWII because it is obvious the history is not known properly and is
relating to film clips. |
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Okay first, had the US not entered WWII it may have continued long enough for the Nazi nuclear
program to finish their work, of which they were not all that far. That would have changed
everything. Keep in mind Britain was begging the US to enter the war.
Secondly, the UK doesn't bend to anyone. They have showed their independence by not entering the
EU. The UK has a pretty good reputation at this point in history of balancing both prudence and
strength. In some ways i think that the relationship between the two countries is mutually
beneficial especially in offering moderation towards the US and added strength to the UK. |
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18 Apr 2008 10:43
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