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God exists, because the Bible says so. And I personally choose to believe in the Almighty God,
Creator of Heaven and Earth, of the seen and unseen. |
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I've seen many good people around us, and when we're in the need of help or if we're in trouble,
there are always people to help us. Morality is the reason why I believe in God, we will always
have the intention to do good more than bad. I don't know why morals exist, for they are irrelevant
for organisms will to live, but we do have them for some strange reason.
This is just my silly opinion, and I do not wish to argue, but I'm just showing why I agree. Even
if this site is intended for debates, I only want to state my opinion. |
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Thank you God, that I exist, that everybody exist, that this whole world exists. God is real.
For sure. |
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Yes God exists, there is evidence that he exists. Enough evidence for the open minded to call it
proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But there is still some faith involved. Likewise you have to have
faith in athiesm in order to ignore the evidence and not believe in god. One bit of evidence for God
is the creation of the universe. "the big bang" theory is generally accepted by scientists today. So
all time, space and matter had a beginning at some time in the distant past. Before the big bang
there was no time space or matter. Christians say God (an infinate being outside of time space and
matter) created something out of nothing. Athiests say nothing created something out of nothing.
Both views require some faith, but the christian view makes more logical sense and requires less
faith. Creation of life on earth is more evidence that points to god (intelegent design). Athiests,
darwinists, evolutionists claim that uninteligent, randomizing nature took dead random matter and
mixed it together and first life was born. Then every living thing evolved from that first life. Of
corse christians think God created man, the animals, and the vegitation. The fossil records show
that all life appeared between 600million and 500million bc, and that all life appeared all at once,
fully formed, and showed no directional changes through extinction. The fossil records also do not
show any transitional forms to support evolution. Again we cannot go back and witness what happened
so some faith is required, but the evidence agrees more strongly with creation rather than
evolution/athieism/darwinism. And there is much more evidence pointing to God, but if you rule out
God to begin with, then all the evidence in the world will never provide "proof" that God exists |
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Ok...I got drug over here by the moderators so now I have to vote.
Yes, God exists. |
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I believe that a sentient and unseen power exists--like a cosmic awareness. That is what I think of
as God. And I can believe this God exists without believing IN God to DO anything. And I do not
have to be religious or even have a religion to think this. And the God that may exist may not be
like the biblical version at all. But we all have a source beyond the physical realm, I think. We
should respect this source in some way, simply for giving us our existence. |
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Yes i do believe in god or the concept of god under a universal way. What i mean is that a see god
in all animals and humans this togetherness that we all have to me is god. Now correct me if i am
wrong for the people that do not believe there is a god. Do you not believe In the Eurocentric
version of god which is this evil god that destroy the non believers because I may not know what god
is but i know what god not |
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I think God is real because if it weren't for God how would you have been born huh? And you might
say evolution er sum stupid stuff like that and that all leads up to a big bang but big bangs don't
just happen.....something has to cause them so what do you think? There is no scientific explanation
for how the big bang happened but it did and you people who say God doesn't exist need to look at
yourself and think how could any of this happen without something to make it happen? Big bangs don't
just come flyin outta people's asses! |
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Big surprise right! |
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And need$ your money!
Oh wait, that's religion.
Hard to be broke if you're God, no? |
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Well there has been many a convert on the battlefield, in the moments between the saddle and the
ground. |
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This depends on who believes in god, all i'm saying is that a statement like this one would
technically require proof if there is a god how would you know? And say for example you had an
encounter with him, would anybody else know? I am a christian but i don't like the way this
statement has been shown i couldn't be more proud of my belief in god however the same comments are
gonna be used because there's no PROOF. |
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Yes, He does. From the athiest viewpoint, the universe exists basically by accident. This is a
point of view I will never understand. The world's too complicated and works too well to have sprung
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God obviously exists..Everything in the world needs a creator..Like a watchmaker makes watches..If
we look around the beauty of this world..There can only be one thing that could have created
this..And that's God.. |
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GOD does exist! If you pray for something and you don't get at all or right away, does that mean
that God don't exist, No! It just means that maybe you are not supposed to receive it or not at the
moment. It's like when you were little and you asked your parents for something and they said no or
not yet maybe for Christmas, does that mean your parents aren't real, No!
K9, God can raise someone from the dead and has before, He has also healed people from all
sorts of things. Believing is not seeing it is the evidence of things not seen! Pray and ask God to
reveal Himself to you and see what happens! |
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Of course God exist. There is no question about it. There is evidence all around us. I am sick of
these atheists saying there is no proof. I mean, if you cannot open you eyes and see all that he has
created and done, then you must be pretty blind. However, when these atheists are dying and need
help, they will be wishing they knew God. I have no doubt that God exist.
Joe9...your story sounds interesting. I also had an encounter a few years ago, but I did not get a
number. I just got hope and assurance of a better place. Go GOD!!!! He does exist. He is around us.
Just open your eyes and look. |
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I believe so. Your story sounds interesting. You should tell me about it. |
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I believe that imagination is truth, meaning whatever YOU believe is true to YOU, nobody else. If
YOU believe in God, then it is true to you and will always be, if you don't then that is still what
YOU believe, never speak for anyone else and don't let anyone speak for you. This is religion, it's
stupid to debate religion, because you are telling others what they should believe. I am not saying
I believe in God, I am not saying that there is no God, I am just telling you what is what. |
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Why not repeat myself?
Hey world! Does any one believe that the natural is the ultimate cause for nature?
The proposition of deity works and it is the only explanation that does. Why reject it? |
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So here is the way i look at it, for what its worth, and i am not sure which side i should be on.
There is no proof of the existence of God, but for many there is evidence that points in that
direction: It's like we are part of a painting, and we are trying to figure out the nature of the
artist or if there is an artist at all. All we have to go on is the painting. The scientist looks
at the molecular composition of the paint and the canvas and says there is only what we see. You
have no evidence to claim the artist exists. Then there are some who say that yes there is a
painting therefore there is an artist, he lives and he is beautiful. Then there are those who look
at the composition of the painting and says there is evidence pointing toward an artist, and we can
pretty much figure his meaning. Some people look at the purpose and meaning of life and existence
and see the direction of humanity with its struggles and triumphs and the very evolution of the
individual as evidence of "a God as we understand him". It is in this connecting of the dots that
some of us find evidence, but no proof.
There are some who have had profound religious experiences that further enforce that belief. Those
experiences are just as real to the individual as any scientific proof that can be produced. It may
not hold up as factual data, but it does not diminish the experience and its meaning to the
individual. For these people their faith is as real as music is real, but also just as invisible. |
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God does exist he works in our lives daily and watches over us all the time. |
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg? If you say egg, how do you get an egg without a chicken?
If you say chicken, how do you get a chicken without an egg? The obvious is that the chicken came
first, created by spiritual being we call God. This is the only logical way to explain the existence
of the chicken or for any other thing on earth or in the heavens. If you say evolution, why aren't
there chickens still popping up out of thin air without an egg? Again the only logical conclusion is
that there is a creator. |
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"If God did not exist we would have to invent him". Until mankind can duplicate His works, you will
not sway me from my convistion that there is a powerful force out there. Consider this, what
happens to you when you die? What happens to whatever makes you unique? |
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He is the light of the world.
He is the king of kings.
He made everything.
He holds the world in his hand.
He is the hope when you have none.
He is the strength you never had.
He is the rock on which i stand.
He is the set of footprints beside me while i walk through life.
He is the set of footprints that are alone, because he carries me through the tough times.
He is the alpha and omega.
He is the beginning and the end.
He is the lord and savior.
He is your very best friend.
He will help you when times get hard.
He will be there when the tears start to fall.
He will help you back on your feet again.
He is the one true God.
He is my father.
He is your father.
Let him in.
Ask him into your heart.
Jesus died for you.
Excepting him is the way to start.
A new and holy life.
Amen. |
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I don't know why but this topic is always debated..I think this is the matter of faith-things you
believe with no evidence that you cant see.
There are more than one religion and that means people believe in different 'gods.. |
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There are more physical facts that by far outweigh to say that "he" doesn't exist than any that say
he does, in fact there isn't ONE fact to say "he" does exist.
When I say fact what I mean is, what us humans define as a fact.
E.G. An event known to have happened or something known to have existed,
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A concept whose truth can be proved.
Therefore based on facts, the facts point to god being non-existant. |
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There is no proof. It is impossible. God does not exist. A dude living in the clouds would fall and
die so there is no way. |
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If God did exist, where is the proof? Just because the Bible is the most popular book that existed,
does not neccesarily mean that it exists. Harry Potter, is a perfect example on this topic. Just
because there are over millions of copies sold, does not mean that magic exists. Oh, and a little
comment on Christianity. I think there was good reason that Jesus was crucified. Okay, if a white
man said that he was the son of God in the Middle East (where most people have colourred skin),
would that not be just a tiny bit strange? |
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Holy whips and chains! A God argument that I have not yet commented on?! Blasphemy!
I'm going to have to say no because you said that there is "irrefutable proof" and "evidence" that
God does exist, and you attribute existence itself to proof that God exists. That, to me, is not
proof; that's merely a belief. If you want to be technical about it, there are two theories as to
why we exist. The first theory is that we were destined to exist, which could include God in that
theory. The other theory is that we were simply the result of random situations which created
life.
You can't really prove either one of those theories with cold, hard facts; not yet at least. And
furthermore, saying that things exist and that's God's doing is not proof, but rather belief. You
can't just say "Hey look, existence. God exists." and expect that to be proof enough. I'm not saying
that God does not exist, but your proof is somewhat weak. |
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Due to the very intelligent moderators at Forandagainst.com, my post on this debate made no sense
because it was moved to this one from another for whatever reason they felt necessary. So, I just
decided to erase it and not even bothering to post anything else about the topic. |
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If you know this for sure then show me tangible proof of your OPINION ! Since you KNOW your right
this should not be a huge problem, SHOULD IT ? RELIGIOUS FANATICS ARE SO STUPID ! ! |
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Whether or not god exists in no way effects the way I live or would live my life. That being said
I’ve never seen a compelling reason, or experienced an overwhelming need to believe in God. I’ve
also never heard or seen a definition of god makes much sense or seems likely to me. |
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There is no god of any kind for any religion. It is all bullshit. |
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"If there is a god, why doesn't he just destroy all the evil in the world? Simple, the same reason
why the comic book hero cannot defeat the villain-- there would be no story, no reason to go to
church, no reason to fear or to worship." -George Carlin |
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OK, i was reading a religious magazine and they said that you can ask god for help, but you also
have to help yourself...why not save your breath and just help yourself? Whats the point there? |
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I'm pretty sure the secret number is 69. |
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There is no evidence for the factual existence of any god(s) whatsoever. The whole idea of esoteric
numbers etc. Is really idiotic. |
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Forty Two |
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What "god"?
Prove one exists. Come to the city where I live, let's go to a hospital and find someone dead,
perhaps decapitated (head cut off) in a car accident.
If you can bring the dead guy back to life, I'll believe.
If you can't bring the dead guy back, get your "god" to do it.
If you can't get your "god" to do it, then it doesn't exist.
You're the one who says it's possible, so you have to prove it.
Edit:
Hey, Mabak: Prove you're not a pedophile.
What's that? You say you don't have to disprove it, just as you say "god" doesn't have to prove
itself?
Okay, that must mean you are a pedophile.
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Now do you see how stupid your argument is? All propositions are false until proven true, including
your mythical "god".
You're free to believe it all you want, but nobody has ever proven it. You're just a believer in
regurgitated fairy tales, not a viewer of first hand experience.
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He still didn't provide any facts or his own experience.
If god exists he really left u drawing in an ocean factless mumbo jumbo.
It is like your are all grasping to the nearest piece of bs that floats ur way |
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What proof mark? There is no proof for god ion this world, if anything there is more evidence
towards the contrary, explain to me any real proof for gods existence, beside your so-called
personal experience |
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"Religion has actually conviced people that there's an invisible man - living in the sky - who
watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of
ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special
place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live
and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time... But He
loves you!"
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This is not irrefutable proof, and nothing you can say can make it so. In my view, both the theistic
and atheist arguments are flawed. We cannot prove the existence of God just as we cannot prove the
non-existence of God.
It's also interesting to see that you say (in relation to the Universe) that an infinite cannot
exist, and everything must have a beginning. I ask, where does God begin?
We cannot understand the mysteries of the Universe just like Christians say we cannot understand the
mind of God. Science theory says that a Big Bang give birth to the Universe. It does not explain
what set off the Big Bang. Creationist theory says God created the world in six days. It does not
explain the evidence for the aforementioned Big Bang. The argument should stop here - there is no
proof - irrefutable proof - for either. All we can discern is what is the more likely theory. |
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How can you possibly state that the existence of the universe itself is reason enough to believe in
a powerful, supernatural being. You stated in a comment that "everything that begins to exist has a
cause", so what caused god to exist?, Unless you mean he is an "actual infinite", but wait, you also
stated that "an actual infinite can't exist". You even defined God as "Infinitely perfect creator
and sustainer of the universe..."
It appears that you are contradicting yourself whilst stumbling over your pathetic arguments.
How do you know it was god that you had an encounter with, it could have been a state of
semi-consciousness brought on by a range of physiological causes.
Then there is your argument that the universe is complex, therefore god made it. This is a perfect
example of imperfect logic, here's an analogy: When Ben sleeps in, he is late for school, Ben is
late for school, therefore, he must have slept in. This kind of logic is stated without first
thinking about other possibilities and without thinking it through, just like your argument |
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There is no evidence or even any suggestion of there being a god. Until some is presented, and that
does not include "isn't everything amazing, it must be god", then is it not fair enough for us not
to believe in his/her existence? What were your encounters? |
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If you believe there is irrefutable evidence, present it. Prove that you're right. Come on, do
something.
Let's see your proof. That doesn't mean "I had a personal encounter with something I'm going to
claim as God", that's pointless. Stop claiming nonsense and actually do something about it. |
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Try looking for existing debates on the same topics before you start new ones. |
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The buybull says, "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a
child: But when I became a man, I put away childish things."
It's ironic that godbots like you still believe in an imaginary friend, as children are want to do. |
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I am actually laughing at the feeble nature of your arguments. Irrefutable evidence? Ha! For the
love of God (and yes, I used the Lords name in vain on purpose), why must everything complex and
wonderful have to be made by a superior mind? Why do you have such a problem with accepting the
possibility that everything just happened and we are the beneficiers of this Great Accident?
And as for contact with God? There are cases all over the world of such claims, all of them
disproven. You want to believe that you have been touched by him, so the brain simulates your
desire. A simple psychosomatic reaction. Cases have been so extreme as to induce "stigmata",
Christ-like wounds upon believers. I have no problem with people accepting the possibility that
either religion or science is the answer, but people like this, the ones who deny any other
reasoning, who make pathetic arguments for their side, despite tangible evidence of any kind, that
really grate on me. God is simply another form of control that drones follow without question,
because they are too foolish to question authority. Simple. |
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Of course I care to argue. Don't underestimate us, you may have the iron will of a chriStain, but
Atheists have the job of laughing at you.
"I believe there is irrefutable proof that God exists". Great stuff. I don't care.
"evidence is all around us" They always use this argument, and it never works. Please, for your own
sake, don't bother.
So, because the universe is complex, it had to be a supernatural being that created it? What I
flushed down the toilet was a mass of complex atoms, yet I made that without thought.
You've had personal encounters with god? Met him down a dark alley? Oh, you claim he changed your
life some way. Prove it was "him".
Most theistic arguments are based on the bible, and since that has no solid evidence.. |
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