God Doesn't Exist And Unfortunately Never Did

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However if people feel happier and more content in believing in God then that's alright as well.

Balance_92

02 Apr 2009 01:16

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It's not unfortunate at all. It's just the truth. God is a bedtime story for kids and a comfort and a blame for adults. Nothing more.

DdAWg

09 Jan 2010 03:30

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People fail to understand that many things are the result of humans. God is a concept. Like many concepts, some are just ways to help people believe. Before humans thought about God, there was no divine spirit at work. Kitten is right (andrea). God is a creation of man.

Tromanator

27 Apr 2009 11:55

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Certainly no good reason that I've ever seen to think otherwise.

Evileye

04 Apr 2009 13:25

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At some point I have to grant a human what it insists. Doesn't seem that human is the same kind of existence as I am but there's room to think they are simply biological occurrences, same as a worm.

I agree it would seem unfortunate....but I don't know....is a worm unfortunate?

justsumguy

03 Apr 2009 05:18

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There's simply no objective evidence to support the factual existence of any god(s).

Cephus

02 Apr 2009 19:03

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There's simply no objective evidence to support the factual existence of Cephus.

justsumguy

03 Apr 2009 05:10

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This is up to the individual to decide, what you have put forward is an opinion. Personally I do agree, I have no reason to believe in God and can honestly say I do not think God exists.
However just because I do not believe does not mean that everyone else should be the same. If people choose to believe in a God then that is their absolute right to do so, the same goes for those who do not believe.

kddan

02 Apr 2009 18:50

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Not this again

coelho

02 Apr 2009 13:39

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God only exists in the minds of those who believe.
I do not believe in him so to me he does not exist.
To a religious person, however, God does exist, as they believe in Him.

God is simply a creation of mans mind.

kitten

02 Apr 2009 09:31

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I think you are too assertive. Do you really reject any existence of a God? You don't have to get mingled within all that religious hocus pocus. You should keep your mind open. Think of all the possibilities. Does God even have to be aware of human existence? There are too much potentials to doubt what could easily be true.

verum

02 Apr 2009 17:19

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Well that settles it; you say so, therefore it absolutely must be true.

dlmiller82

09 Sep 2009 02:19

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To tell you the true, I don't actually remember writing this debate.

Balance_92

14 Jan 2010 11:21

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If God exists, he exists whether we believe he does or not. If God does not exist, then he doesn't exist whether we believe he does or not.

The belief that God exists is a reasonable belief; that is to say that there is good likelihood that it is true. There are multiple reasonable arguments for his existence. Some of them are: 1. The cosmological argument, which is supported by the Big Bang. The Big Bang is best explained by a "Big Banger", namely God. Other explanations for the cause of the beginning of the universe are far more unreal and fanciful. 2. The Design argument is another reasonable evidence for the existence of God. The complexities of life, and of nonlife such as the genetic information in DNA and the existence of the natural physical laws are best explained by an Intelligence as opposed by any naturalistic explanation. 3. The moral argument is solid. Objective morality can be demonstrated and the best explanation for objective moral laws is a Lawmaker. 4. The argument from the mind is also relevant. Human consciousness, thoughts, agency, willfulness, sentience, etc. Are best explained by a nonphysical part of existence. That is to say, simple matter and energy cannot adequately explain the function of the mind. Mind states are not identical to brain states. Reasoning, by abduction, leads one to believe in an immaterial, nonphysical part of existence, which strongly supports the notion of a grand mind or God. Now, none of these are a "slamdunk" arguments for the existence of God. That is they do not prove His existence, but taken as an aggregate along with other good arguments for His existence, one can confidently say that it is "reasonable to believe in God".

charlee

02 Apr 2009 23:24

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I like the first two sentences. I only have a problem with portions of the next part after that. I would personally agree that it’s reasonable to believe in the existence of a god. But, ultimately, reason is defined by the individual. What’s reasonable to one may not be to another. You could say that it’s reasonable to you or that it’s reasonable to many to believe in a god. But asserting that it’s a reasonable belief overall assumes that reason itself doesn’t differ from person to person. On another note, I didn’t like the way you phrased things when you spoke about the Big Bang theory. The way you worded the sentence appeared to imply that the theory is actually meant to prove the existence of a god through use of its evidence and predictions. The Big Bang theory doesn’t support or discredit the existence of any god under the scientific criteria of which its based. It would have been more appropriate to state that interpretations of the Big Bang theory can be used to support the existence of a god, whether than making it seem as though the theory does so itself. The Big Bang is a scientific theory. Therefore, it is religiously neutral. It doesn’t support or deny any concept of the supernatural under scientific standards. To claim it does is to mix science with religion.

Hizashi

02 Apr 2009 23:41

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I agree to some extent your notion about reason.  But, it many circles a good reason is meant  to be something one should believe to be true.  Take the laws of logic.  Most agree in the law of identity and the law of noncontradiction and the law of excluded middle and the general inference of using good logic, such as modus pollen,etc.  So, reasonable people at  a minimum would  agree as to whether or not  there is at least "some" good reasoning behind a given argument.  I strongly disbelieve the notion that reason is only relative to the eye of the beholder.  If that were the case, there would be no reason to believe in the scientific method, would there?   I'll accept your criticism of my phraseology.  I could have put it better and so will state the Big Bang supports the notion of an intelligent agent acting to cause the universe to come into being, rather than a prior lifeless cause for the beginning of the universe.  And I would agree that it is only supportive evidence.  None of my arguments for God's existence are meant to be "proofs", per se.  I will go along with your religiously neutral comment, especially since I made no mention of any religion.  Certainly, we would agree to this statement:  If the supernatural exists, then science has no means to study it or even detect it, since science only deals with the natural, sensory part of existence.  However, there is much philosophy behind good science, in fact, good philosophy is a priori to the existence of any good science or scientific method.  So, I would argue that science cannot stand alone without other mental concepts, that are even more important to science than science itself.

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That is your opinion my opinion is that if god did not exist neither would you GOD DOES EXIST

shipp

02 Apr 2009 17:06

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Because you say so. Joy.

Cephus

02 Apr 2009 17:24

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There is a God. Just because someone decides to not believe in Him, does not erase the existence of said Creator.

jalapenos

02 Apr 2009 04:39

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Prove it. Produce evidence. Come up with something. If you can't, then why is saying God exists any better than saying invisible pixies exist?

Make an attempt at logic, at least.

Cephus

02 Apr 2009 17:25

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Well, you could have that same attitude and say people feel more comfortable NOT believing in God.

gottfried

02 Apr 2009 04:10

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That doesn't make sense because God is a coping mechanism - so therefore you'd be less comfortable.

Balance_92

02 Apr 2009 15:09

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He does

AndyQTPham

02 Apr 2009 02:07

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n't

Balance_92

02 Apr 2009 15:10

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That's a subjective assertion. Not a fact. Anyway, I beat everyone else here. So I'm satisfied.

Hizashi

02 Apr 2009 01:45

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God is subjective... beat that!

Balance_92

02 Apr 2009 15:18

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