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Depends on your definition of God, the idea that some invisible dude in the sky who created the
earth 5000 years ago exactly as it is today seems silly, but maybe go could have started the big
bang? Just a hypothetical question, I just wan tot point out that the bible and science a re more
than capable of co-existing if you don't take the bible completely word-for-word |
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God don't exist if he did we would have found him already |
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No he dosent exist...just the fact people believe in so manny diffeerent gods outrightly dismisses
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I am an anti-theist. I cannot conclusively prove there is no God (just as believers cannot prove
there is) but I can look at the balance of probability and say that the existence of god is so
incredibly unlikely as to be as good as impossible.
To quote a man with a much better way with words than me:
"Science knows it doesn't have all the answers, otherwise it would stop, but just because it doesn't
have all the answers doesn't mean you can fill the gaps with whatever fairytale you like the
most".
I also believe that the God represented in the Bible, Qu'ran and Torah is a hateful and petty
creation worthy of nothing but fear and contempt, and that on balance religion does more damage than
good.
Happy to debate this below but to pre-empt a lot of the nonsense I see in other comments:
- There IS evidence for evolution, it is NOT a theory of random chance and a scientific theory does
not mean a guess (http://www.notjustatheory.com/)
- "If you're wrong you're going to hell" is not a logical argument, its a recourse to
intimidation
- Multiple exclamation marks and claims of Jesus' return will be taken as a sign of mental
instability
- Arguments that god created the universe to look like he didn't smack of desperation
- The Bible is not consistent
(http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html), nor is it moral
(http://www.evilbible.com/) and its contents were hand picked by a conference of powerful men with
an agenda (http://www.livescience.com/2410-council-nicea-changed-world.html)
- The mad, bad or god argument that Jesus (and by extension other bible figures) were either
correct, insane or evil liars is debunked here: Http://faculty.wwu.edu/howardd/mbgfp5web.pdf
- "I believe so it must be true" is contradicted by the billions of people who sincerely have faith
in something different
- The argument "we can't have come from nowhere therefore God made us" makes no sense, as it fails
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If God Exists There Would Be No Suffering No Toture And No Killing Or Flooding The World Would Be
Perfect.
The Bible Is Full Of Hot Air, God Would Prevent Anything To Do Bad Or Harm To This World. |
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Does not exist |
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He totally exists! |
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I feel a lot of debate on the against side is missing the point, that when one makes a claim, it is
the claimant's responsibility to provide evidence of claim. It is not the listener's responsibility
to disprove. If you claim there is a higher power, provide evidence.
A lack of evidence against is not evidence for.
There is no proof that we are not all in a dream, or in a bubble controlled by aliens, but we
generally don't make life decisions surrounding it. I have found, for the most part, that many
religious persons are committed to religion and theism because they fear the consequences of not.
That terrifies me. That one should live their life with such dismissal and irrationality. Or they
have 'felt' some movement in their soul. You vastly underestimate the human mind. We are complex,
flawed creatures, and the human mind can be tricked, grown, and awed with such ease.
God does not exist because he rationally does not make sense. There is no logic, no evidence, no
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I have no reason to believe that God exists, if we actually had something to prove that he exists,
then fair play, but we don't so.... Anyway i find it hard to believe anything that doesn't have
solid evidence to back it up. So i would believe in the big bang, because there is evidence to prove
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We will see when we die. |
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It's kind of ignorant to say that God doesn't exist, just based on the fact that there is no
evidence that he exists. The same is the case with the assertion that he does exist, just because no
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It's totally meaningless to say he does or he doesn't. It has no effect on us in any way whatsoever.
If we all decided tomorrow to say 'yes, he exists, we believe!'' nothing would change, the world
wouldn't alter, planets would still spin, suns still shine, human nature would continue as
before.
Science has never said 'god doesn't exist' because it doesn't need to, , science works whether the
scientist believes or not, so science just simply dropped the god factor a century ago, and got on
with the provable.
A christian saying 'yes he definitely exists' is laughable. In the bible you are told 'believe in
me', , ,well the very act of belief relies on something being unproven, because a belief that is
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We don't know if God does exist or if he doesn't. People have faith, they believe in God. He doesn't
have to exist, just believe that he does. I however, am not a believer or one to have faith in a
fairytale character. Sorry, religious folk. |
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A tale made to comfort and control people. |
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Proof of his absence is around of but not proof that he doesn't exist. So I say we do not know for
sure. I hope he does tho |
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Poo poo |
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If god does Exist. When i die i am going to kick his but to hi11. Or if i go to hi11 i am go to kick
the devils but to hevan then i am go to kick both there buts. |
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The scientific evidence does not match up with the evidence and the scriptures from the bible. There
is no actual scientific evidence that says that God is the all mighty and he runs and decides
everything in every humans life. Therefore he does not exist. |
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There's no PROOF that there's god. It may just be some story someone made up in the past. |
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Religious people think that a big man with a long beard created the universe and then some guy and
some woman ate some fruit therefore DAMNING US ALL TO HELL and then they had some children who all
lived to >700 years (!) and then God fashioned a pit of fire in the sky and then disappeared
magically. Does all that sound reasonable to you? No! The Big Bang and evolution disprove religion
entirely. If he was real, why wouldn't he show us some evidence of his existance? |
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These comments are so unintelligent it hurts. None of them are reasons, merely opinions or
assertions of they're upbringing. Religion and God and the afterlife are nothing more than
self-fullfilling prophecies:
Join the Church (so the Church gains more members) and go to heaven.
Live how we say to live, go to heaven.
God doesn't need to prove himself, because He's God.
Question God (or the Church) and His (or the Church's) teachings and go to Hell. |
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Aren't we descended from monkeys?
Not created by god? |
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Of course not. Creationists say "Oh so we came by chance. That does not make sense!" Well you see
there does not alway have to a a meaning to life. We are random. Also it is far more logical to say
god does not exists. It makes sense. |
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Yes, i agree |
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Even if god is real he has left us alone for dead. God doesn't exist. |
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God is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. That means it's impossible to design a test in a controlled
environment that would determine whether or not God exists. The existence of God is such an abstract
concept that it's absurd to even consider its possibility. Look up Russell's Teapot to see what I
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My own 40 years on this planet have yet to show one example of anything which could only be
explained by the presence of God. The stunning absence of proof, eventually must be considered
proof of absence.
Furthermore, something in the sense of the Christian God, makes no sense. Any entity that powerful
would not care about humans. The only version of God which makes any sense at all would be as some
sort of impersonal force of nature, something that causes the peculiar order in the universe, but
doesn't really care whether we are in it. But such a thing would be nothing like traditional views
of god. |
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Religion is essentially just faith in something that you can not see,hear,taste,touch etc. So,
religion is faith in any being that is abstract. This being said... There is no proof of existence.
If God was real, wouldn't he leave behind something concrete to prove his existence? However, the
idea that god is abstract further improves faith. We always assume he is listening; tending to our
problems, etc. |
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The truth of Pascal's Wager means that I'm betting on an infinity of differing possible gods. I
think it's far better to go with the far more plausible idea of the lack of its existence then to
bet against infinity.
If a benevolent god exists, it should know the exact reasons for why I am an atheist, and that it
created me as such. Therefore, I should not be punished for my predetermined path. |
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I can't prove that god exist, but it depends what you believe |
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I don't believe there is a God, but I believe there must be some higher form or something out there. |
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Im athiest for the simple fact that i have seen no proofe that god exists once i see with my own
eyes that there is a god then i will belive |
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If there was any proof that god exsisted then i would 100% believe in him however, there is no proof
that he exsists and proof of the big bang (red shift and blue shift created by the big bang for
starters) so as it stands, god doesn't exsist, face the facts. |
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I am agnostic & Nihilist... & I affirm with Nietzsche's "God is Dead." |
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I'm atheist
so i don't really know for sure if god does really exist
but if you show me god
i will believe he exists |
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God does exist because some religions believe it. It's unacceptble
God is the creator of everything how dare you say that in front of me i believe god is real and no
one can take that belief from me
even if i'm a intermediate student doesn't mean that some physco can take my belief away from me i
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My school Bucklands Beach Intermediate |
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There has to be a "High Power" that started it all. We couldn't have just popped on Earth randomly.
Even if you believe in evolution, something had to create the primates. |
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You don't have to see something to believe it. The energy and the forces are all around us. But your
ignorance blocked your soul and you cannot manifest your true power. God does exist, but also the
brain-washing of our society. |
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God does exist. |
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Having studied medical science and physics (quantum mechanics, string theory, etc) and cosmology, I
can safely say that the probability of a God is very high. The real question is not whether God
exists or not, but rather do we believe he exists? If you don't believe in God, then even if he
appears in front of you, you can claim that's a spirit and is a devil, so in your eyes, God will
never exist. Therefore, the definition of what you think God is, is very important. This is
relativity at its best. What appear as God to us, may look as the Devil to you!
Now I don't know about you, but when I read about Near Death Experiences of people from different
countries and different culture having the same experience of going to heaven/hell, it's too much of
a coincidence. Plus in physics, there are laws such as the laws of thermodynamics that states energy
can never be destroyed, so when we die, what happens to consciousness if it can't be destroyed?
For the people that believes in evidence, then may I suggest to you that we humans understand too
little and yet want to believe we're too smart. Do you know whatever we have managed to observe so
far, makes up only about 4% of the actual universe out there? We don't know what made up those 96%
of dark matter and dark energy. We don't even understand DNA well enough to cure cancer. If I was a
billion years old alien visiting Earth, I would probably laugh at the human species for thinking we
have evidence for everything despite the fact that we don't even understand our own DNA well enough.
As the alien, I would feel sorry for stupid human species for killing each other and yet thinking
they are wise enough to have direct evidence of God.
I am deeply passionate about science and science has also taught me that if I can't rule something
100% out, then there is always a probability that it can be true, in this case, the existence of
God.
Above all, there is something that I think having faith in God is important. Let's assume both
possibilities, if there's indeed a God, then it's a no brainer we benefit from our faith in God. If
there's no God, then we STILL benefit if we practice the compassionate and love and kindness
preached in the religious teachings. If everyone is kind and compassionate, then not only isn't
there war, but the trillions of dollars spent on nuclear weapons could have been spent to build
homes and nice delicious food for all. Those money could also be spent on curing illness and
eradicate cancer. So if you realize whether God exists or not, it's always a good option to believe
in God, then suddenly it makes sense.
I could write a lot more indirect evidence of God but faith in God doesn't have to come from
Science, it has to come from within you. Like I said, if you don't believe in God, even if he
appears in front of God, you will claim God is a Devil, it's your choice. |
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Well heres a question, do you believe in LOVE? Really? Well if you do, do tell me can you see love?
No. Can you hear love? No. Exactly but its presence is still there? Yes. This is exactly like God.
He does exist, although we cannot hear or see him, we can feel His presence, especially through
worship and prayer. This is MY opinion. God Bless. |
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I think God is misinterpreted. Human existence, and the existence of all other things, came about by
survival of the fittest. Before all the modern hype about every living human being treated equally,
strong humans, with the biological systems and makeup we have today, would have killed those who
lacked it if they did not die on their own. If, for example, a human was born without a pancreas,
they would die. If a human was born with a defective brain, a human with a better brain would have
killed said defective human before he/she had the chance to reproduce.
That is my belief on how the complex biological systems present in all human beings came to be.
However one may still ask the question, how did life start? Why don't we know? How does each little
strand of DNA know what job to undertake? That, my friends, is a mystery. However I am confident
that there is a scientific explanation that is far too complicated for the simple mind of the human
being.
Having made it clear that I don't believe God incited this evolution, I would like to get back to
the topic at hand. I believe God is a collective belief shared by most of the world. As long as one
believes in God, He exists. I know that the proof of His existence has been lacking, and I believe
it is because of this. God doesn't exist in the conventional sense, but rather in the sense that He
is believed in.
To make an analogy, imagine 7 out of 10 people believe that there is life at the core of the sun.
Those 7 out of 10 people will never know in their lifetimes if there is or is not. So for their
entire lives there is simultaneously life in the middle of the sun, and no life in the middle of the
sun. This is the old Schrodinger's cat example, if that clarifies it. However to those 7 out of 10
people, there will always be life in the middle of the sun, whether those aliens ever play a role in
their lives or not.
I guess what I'm saying is that no matter whether God really exists or not, he exists to those who
believe in him.
As for those who have claimed to be impacted by God directly, I have no comment. It has not happened
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To believe in something with out proof is faith (more or less), if you knew all the ways God
operated that wouldn't make him much of a God. I can't make you believe in a God only you can choose
what you believe in.Even if you believe theres a god that doesn't make you a Christian you have to
repent of your sins. Im no preacher or expert on this topic all i have is what I've read from the
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God exists-just look around you, you can see God in everything around you-
If you can't see God, JUST PRAY to God to gently show himself to you-
and God will show you when the time is right-
Trust me, thats what I did and God has indeed showed himself to me- |
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First off, no, actually you don't have evidence that He doesn't exist. Why? Because you can't prove
anything simply because you haven't seen Him. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
That's the equivalent to a believer of God telling you, "Look around you! God does exist!" I don't
use such methods.
Secondly, we should all agree that the universe is one freakishly amazing place. But then what
happens when "God" comes to mind? Some big stupid giant? Well, it's no wonder that you don't want to
believe in His existence. I don't need to know what God looks like, because I know that He's much
more beautiful and out of this world rather than some giant glowing weirdo.
Thirdly, scientists don't even know what's keeping our hearts beating. So why question something so
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God exist. There are many signs. Just look outside. Look at a tree. Doesn't a tree look weird? Who
would ever think about a tree being an important thing to our survival. Yet, the tree provides us
oxygen to breathe. Think about an atom. Look how much structure there is. There's is no way that
Earth and the universe could be created by chance. There is too much structure and order to say
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First of all, I agree with many portions of science, ranging from plate tectonics to aliens, but I
am also Christian.
Point one is simple. Science can not explain everything. It can not even explain why bees can fly.
When scientists plugged in all the variables, including the rate of flapping their wings to the lift
produced to the weight of the bee, the equation doesn't add up. So science can't explain why an
insect can fly.
Point two, science contradicts itself. Constantly. The most ironic contradiction is about the Big
Bang theory. First, let me remind you of the Law of the Conservation of Matter. It states that
matter can not be created or destroyed, only changed. So when the show The Universe came on, I found
myself laughing. In a testimony by a prominent scientist, she explained that the Big Bang happened
because of the levels of dark matter and matter becoming unbalanced; this can only happen if some is
created or destroyed. Strike one. Then she explained that when the uneven levels collided, they Big
Banged and made the universe, most of the dark matter and matter destorying each other in the
process. Strike two. The next paragraph details strike 3.
One thing that scientists love to talk about religion is that if you can't see, feel, touch, or
observe something, and so on, then it can't exist or is illogical. Then we go on to the subject of
dark matter. Dark matter is the opposite of matter. It supposedly is just like matter, except it has
no mass. Contradiction there, if you haven't noticed. And guess what. Dark matter is unobservable.
The only reason it was suggested was that the expansion of the universe was speeding up, and
scientists had no idea why. So, what do you know? Scientists believing that something, that is
unobservable and undetectable, is real, and we Christians are the suckers? Strike 3. You're out. |
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He is sooooooooooooooo real. If he isn't who made earth? And why is christianity the most
worshipped relion on earth!!!!!!?????? |
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God may not be real to you or science, but I strongly think you are wrong. |
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I'm a Christian . And to counter your statement . In the bible, it states that it is impossible to
state that he is not real when he is all around you and many of people, through physical
creation(Earth - Water - ETC)
God is a real living divine being. Reasons for his none intervention is because of the event that
placed during Adam and Eve when he asked them to not eat from 1 specific tree. Tree of Good and
evil. We think everything we do or say is always right, our actions and motivations are always right
when it is complete opposite, hence why, this world is the way it is today. Human lust and vanity
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As a wise man once said "absense of evidence is not evidence of absense." Even if we have proven
evolution is right, even if we were to find proof that a few bible concepts are wrong we still have
yet to prove god doesn't exsist.
I will admit i don't believe in creationism i thing god gave us that story so we had something to go
by until we figured it out on our own. I think god purposely left answers unanswered so we have a
purpose in life. I think he went down in different forms because man wasn't all going to believe in
one religion.
I still believe he exsists. |
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I mean like u cant say that he doesnt exist when u dont have any idea urself whether he does or not
so wen u get ur proof we might as well say that yes he does exist |
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He dose if you have a religon |
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Any one that says he doesn't exist cannot prove it! So keep to your faith that he doesn't. At the
end of the day its still faith and if you believe in God then you'll know that he created "faith" |
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He exists, read the Bible for goddamn sake people!
And also ask some people who are alive when Jesus or his deckles are alive and are still alive now! |
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God's existence is not determined by our ability to perceive Him. He is present and evident in all
of creation. There is an undeniable order to nature, order that can only come from the intention of
a divine Creator. Math and science are not a substitute for God, they are a testament to Him; they
are our feeble attempt at understanding the vastly complex and divine works of God.
You asked for proof that God is real? Here's your proof: A flower opening.
The rotation of the planets. The birth of a child. The list is endless. Proof of God's existence is
everywhere; it is in the detail and organized complexity that results in something impossible.
Faith is believing without tangible "proof". We are called to love our Creator unreservedly,
trusting and believing by faith, not by sight. If God painted a billboard in the sky saying "Hi, I'm
God and I'm real, I made all of you and you should worship me", we wouldn't need faith. There would
be no need to trust in His existence and love.
A final note: "you don't know if you're sick, but you're more than willing to take drugs just in
case. Seems to me you should give the man upstairs the same benefit of the doubt that you do an
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I do believe in god! OK let's have a look, If god doesn't exist then how did the universe appear?
You tell by the big bang theory!? Big bang happened because of the hydrogen and someone had create
this element and I guess it's god! |
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What created earth? (long story... Lets just say in space)
what created space? The big bang
what created the big bang? Atoms
what created atoms? GOD OF COURSE!
What created god? Who knows? |
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If god doesn't exist, then who am I? |
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If there is a god, then who is god's father?
Christianity is brain-washing. This is totally nonsense. |
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God was sittin' around one day then he decided to say something "Hey I need a light" Boom there it
was, and it was good. Evolution says: Nothing was sitting around doing nothing, and then nothing got
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This seems to be an ongoing battle between who is right and who is wrong
I am a casual, not extremely dedicated Muslim , so I believe in God (yes, God, not Allah, im using
english so im using the english word).
I still think its absurd for me to say there is /definitely/ a God just as much as it is to say
there /isnt/ a God.
We have no way of knowing, none at all. I think its ridiculous and arrogant for someone to be so
adamant and bias.
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I believe in a deity... End of story. It's up to the individual to decide whether or not something
exists. I'm not going to explain my beliefs because this argument has been made so much I'm sick of
it. Read a bible, do some scientific research, but I'm not going to be the one to spoon feed you
reasons for why there is a God. Stop saying these things if you don't like the answers you get.
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Some people don't realize this, but science = Christianity. There is so much scientific proof out
there about the existence of God that you would have to be blind not to see it! Evolutionism is
also a belief! You are believing that something, that is SOOOOO improbable and impossible, happened
that brought us here! Where is your logic! The earth is not more than about 6000 years old. I
know it doesn't fit in with evolutionists world view to have the earth be that young but it is, and
it's been proven. Evolutionary scientists don't want it to be true so they cover it up. Also,
since evolution is such an impossibility I don't believe that even with 300,000,000,000,000 years it
would be possible. |
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Im christian |
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God exist. Although it depends on you religion. I am a christian so of course I believe that God
exists. This is something that can't be proved to be right or wrong because it is based on belief. |
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I prefer to see god as nature. There is an order of intelligence that allows evolution and the
complex balanced environments we live in. I don't see an argument against gods existence just as I
don't see evidence of who or what he/she/it is, there has to be some plan behind it though. Living
organisms all evolve back to a point where life started. Something had to have started the process
off, nature, god whatever you want to call it exists, it is just an invisible force with an
intelligence behind it. Evolution proves that. |
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