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That more or less conforms to the current historical understanding of how the New Testament was
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I don''t know about 100 writers, but there were many authors and many church leaders decided what
books would make up the christian cannons. A good read on the is "The History of the Church" by
Eusubius. He was one of Constantine's closest friends after Constantine became a "christian" And,
Revelation was almost not included... They worried it was too violent LOL they should see some video
games now a days!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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This debate sound's like a political debate to me. |
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Though none has seen God, so we cannot be very sure that what actually happened and how this Bible
was written. Thus we can say that unless we get any strong evidence we cannot be firm on any such
issue. But it is also said that more than a hundred years back this incident happened that 4 Cannons
filled with men were called to determine which 40 books will be “the ones”. These 4 groups of
people disagreed with each other and came out with their own respective opinions. But finally the
Pope gave their acceptance to the 4th group and these books were first known as God’s “Inspired
Word”. Later these became “The Bible”. It is also said that these books were written by 100
writers as God asked them to, after that it was again God who asked few men to decide and select out
of these. |
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If this information is accurate, then I would say that God IS powerful to let people know the right
ones to put together. God had it all figured out since the beginning. |
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Just pointing out it is made up of 66 separate, non contradicting, supporting books. |
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Some of the information in the debate question is not accurate, but the general point being made
contains some truth. The Bible did not just fall from the sky, even though Christians believe that
it is God's word. We need to keep in mind that the Bible is not one book, but a collection of dozens
of works written by different authors and for vastly different audiences.
The 27 books that make up the New Testament were chosen from hundreds of publications produced soon
after Christ's crucifixion. These works focused on Jesus' life and ministry, as well as on the
history of the early church. There was general agreement that the gospels formed the core of the
Christian message and these works were accepted by most Christians. This, however, was not the case
for the rest of the New Testament. Several councils of the Catholic Church ultimately decided that
just 27 books were inspired and should thus be considered canonical. The process of canonization was
gradual, involving bishops and scholars. |
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It is not true. |
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No, it was Oprah Winfrey who asked 100 writers to write a new Bible.... |
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If it is true, who can confirm God's selection of his co authors?
Keep in mind certain people are institutionalized when they say they were instructed by God to do
this that and the other, and institutionalized by other humans and then persecuted |
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More god botherers |
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66 books written by 40 men inspired by god not a hundred get your facts straight! |
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The books that made it into the so-called "canon of Scripture" are as equally preposterous as those
that fell by the way. For example, in the OT we have the account of Balaam's donkey, who we are
assured spoke fluent Hebrew [ and please note how casually the prophet responds to his jabbering
donkey, as if it were the most natural thing in the world for an ass to speak. One would have to be
an ass oneself to credit such nonsense!] We are told that the prophet Elijah was whisked away to
heaven in a fiery chariot, drawn by two flaming horses [the equivalent today, I suppose, of being
carted off to heaven in a flaming Lexus]. We are told that Samson slew a thousand armed Philistine
soldiers with the jawbone of an ass [Again, one would have to be an ass oneself. . .etc.]. And so
it goes, ad infinitum, ad absurdum. |
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I do believe that the Bible is GOD INSPIRED but God chose 66 men to write what He wanted them to
write!!!!
1)John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God."
2)2 Timothy 3:16 says, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be
complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." |
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I'm against the idea that only those certain books were "inspired by God" even though I was a
Southern Baptist for 30 years and told and taught my Sunday School Class that was what happened.
Only thing, no Southern Baptist ever told, or maybe they didn't want to admit, that it was the
Catholic Church, whom Protestants hated for centuries to late 20th Century, who chose them.
As I look back, and know that even in 1960's that hatred was still active, I have wondered why it
was always accepted, especially if Christians know who led the Crusades when millions of
non-Catholics were murdered and their cities destroyed. That happened even to Constantinople,
which was actually Christian/Catholic city state, even though it was probably the most
magnificently beautiful city ever built.
Baptists are convinced that their history was not Catholic, but was parallel and therefore, their
history was different. Yet, they accepted that those books selected for the Bible were 'inspired by
God' and have used it for worship. I find that quite strange.
The Old Testament, at least parts of it, is the history of the Israelites, the Jewish people. Part
of it is their Torah. I don't know if Jews include all of the Old Testament or just the first books
about Abraham, Moses, Joseph, Isaac, and other leaders of the Jews.
As for the New Testament, which were of course, among all of the the questionable books were not
written until 40 to 200 years after the life of Jesus, who was considered to be the Messiah of the
Old Testament. The first 4 books or "The Gospels" are made up of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Mark was written 120 to 140 years after the life of Jesus.
Having read the Books that were not accepted for the Bible, I just can't understand why they were
not included. Some of them were written by women. Some of the Old Testament books were written by
and about women: Book of Ester is about her...but I don't know however if SHE wrote it. It is a
wonderful about a very brave woman who challenged rulers for the benefit of her people, the Jews,
even when it was dangerous for her to do so. The Book of Ruth is about another wonderful woman who
lived a kind and good life and took care of her mother-in-law (who was NOT of her faith) even though
the law of her Jewish faith did not require that she do it. The Book of Julia was not put in the
Bible because it was about more than one priest who raped a young woman!
Just as there are Christians today who are narrow-minded in how they believe ABOUT the Bible and how
they translate it to fit their desired beliefs, the Popes and Priests of the Catholic Church who
were on the 4 Canons that chose which books fit THEIR beliefs. They were only men with religious
titles and thought it was fine to destroy anyone who did not believe as they did during the
Crusades.
I believe that from the beginning of creation that the Creator God desired and expected that all of
humanity be kind and caring to each other and to care for all of His creation from the smallest
creature to the tallest of His Mountains.
I believe that He did not create it as the book of Genesis says. Those that called Genesis
"inspired by God" was as blind then, as they are today, and don't believe that Dinosaurs existed or
that early humans not like themselves existed........even though the bones of dinosaurs and
Neanderthal humans have been found. It's interesting that nothing about these and other creations
are mentioned in Genesis. Also, among the prophecies of the Bible ever mention neither these nor
the planets and that humans just might visit some of them someday.
I no longer believe that The Bible was/is the "inspired word' of God. Now, I believe that all of
Creation is God's inspired Word and that we know God when we see his creation with our heart and
live among humanity with kindness and acceptance. |
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Did you know that Mary Madgeline wrote a book as well, her gospel but the church rebuked it because
she was a woman?? That doesn't mean it was not a true gospel or witness of Jesus. They should have
put all the writings in the book! How about the ones we just found? The dead sea scrolls? Neat. |
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18 Jan 2008 06:49
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