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For the last 100 million years the earths temperature has been going up and down in glacials and
inter glacials at the moment its going up
however at the peeks and troughs of the temp changes all the humans/ neanderthals die. So we've
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Global warming is natural. The problem is, humans are contributing to it, making the process much
faster, thus worsening the problem. I believe there is a way to relieve it though, but only for a
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Global Warming is definitely a natural cycle. |
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Yes, because if its happening now, whats to say it wouldn't have happened even if humans weren't
here?
Its not necessarily killing us so i don't particularly worry about it. I'll be dead when it gets
serious anyway |
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Global Warming IS the name given to the process of the Earth's surface temperatures, rising and
falling, rising and again, falling. This is another of the crests, we are currently riding, only
this time, with the unnecessary assistance of carbon-monoxide and such gasses, the human population
is "adding fuel to the fire," or contributing to the rise, resulting in an even steeper climb in the
heating process. |
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Actually, there is a reasonable argument for not doing anything even if you believe man is the
cause. If humans are such ghastly creatures, then the continued warming will eventually wipe out
the population completely. Then earth can get back to the business of its natural cycles.
Of course, if its not caused by humans and we do nothing, then the earth is already back to its
natural cycles.
So, in the end, doing nothing results in what both sides are looking for! |
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Natural Cycle...not up for debate. There is nothing that humans can do to the earth that it can't
correct on its own. We can't control local weather so what in the world makes people think that we
can control climate? |
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It is, but humans are contributing to about, .9% of it. |
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I cant top the "we didn't start the fire" comment. |
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We didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world was turning. |
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I know the reason why politicians would like you to think otherwise.
Politician are experts at playing upon the emotions of the populous.
The thing that politicians are expert in, is making themselves even bigger.
Countries in The EU each have two lots of politicians. They set up comity after comity, to organize
body after body, who watch over the people who are watching over us. At the same time telling us how
to run our lives, while they set themselves apart.
I wouldn't trust a politician to organize a day out, in the country for farmers.
If it is in the interest of their growth as a body, or their wages, they all agree. "Here Here" |
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Gee. Global environmental cataclysmic catastrophes are a historical fact.
Humans should try to not ravage the planet.
In the end, global warming can cause global cooling and vice-versa.
Humans should try not to cause either.
If the planet decides to head for either, there's probably little humans could do to stop it.
If humans could immediately stop all the processes which harm the environment, the numbers of dead
in the first few weeks would be unlike any other human catastrophe.
The way things are going, in twenty years, the world will have made much progress towards helping
the environment. In the end though, no matter what you do, it's sheer population that will overcome
the planet. Give the world total peace and freedom from hunger. Cure the diseases and expand life
expectancy. Stabilize the environment.
Then you better find a lot of water on Mars cause living there is gonna cause quite a thirst. |
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GLOBAL WARMING is a natural cycle. The discovery channel will tell you that it has happened to the
planet many times over the course of millions of years at at time.
MAN, HOWEVER, has sped up the process by 100 YEARS! THIS IS A VERY BIG SHOCK TO THE PLANET'S
ABILITY TO MAINTAIN LIFE. Our government and our people truly need to deal with this. The time
is now. Know it. |
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Global warming is in fact a natural cycle, but people are stupid and we're making it both natural
and unnatural.
No, I don't blame fossil fuels and other things for releasing CO2 in the air, but I blame
methane.
I think that methane gas is what's really gonna kill us in the end. |
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Yes you are right i am completely with you because you have the capability to understand the
environment problem. |
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Global warming is natural but we are making it worse and happen faster than it should be.
We can do something about it but its just the case of weather people care enough and have enough
time to think about the planet while they are constantly thinking about themselves. |
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The Oregon petition that innomen quotes below is a perfect example of how this issue has been
clouded with crud. The petition was created by members of the George C. Marshall (funded Exxonmobil)
right wing think tank specifically to cloud the issue. They sent out blanket mailings of note cards
where you could check a box for what your degree was supposed to be, with no form of verification.
Scientific American checked out 30 random names from the PhD list and only 11 said they would still
sign the petition and only one of those was actually a climate scientist. Dr. Arthur Robinson is a
biologist specializing in cancer research. The paper that accompanied the petition was never subject
to peer review or published in any scientific journal. |
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And lo, it came to pass that eventually the ice age reached its end. And there was much wailing and
gnashing of teeth and rending of clothing. "Look what we have done," cried the people.
Mars and Jupiter are both showing signs of global warming ("signs" = increased temperatures). So are
many of the smaller bodies in the solar system like Europa.
The global warming scientists are starting to acknowledge that the rest of the solar system is
warming, but then they turn around and say that the cause for the other planets is natural but that
for us, the cause is DIFFERENT.
How would that work, exactly?
In fact, Earth's temperature change has been relatively mild to what's going on on those
aforementioned planets.
What logic tells us is that the entire solar system is warming, and that on Earth those effects are
somewhat attenuated by the self-regulating nature of the biosphere. |
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32,000 scientists dissent from global-warming “consensus”
May 20th, 2008
At a press conference on May 19, Arthur Robinson, Ph.D., announced the release of the names of
32,000 scientists who have signed a strongly worded petition dissenting from the alarmist assertions
of Al Gore and the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Fears of
catastrophic human-caused global warming, requiring draconian energy rationing, are the basis for
policies supported by all three leading Presidential candidates: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and
John McCain.
Al Gore claims that “the debate is over,” and that there are only a “few” remaining
“skeptics.”
“In Ph.D. Scientist signers alone, the project already includes 15-times more scientists than are
seriously involved in the United Nations IPCC project. The very large number of petition signers
demonstrates that, if there is a consensus among American scientists, it is in opposition to the
human-caused global warming hypothesis rather than in favor of it,” states Robinson. Signers
include more than 9,000 Ph.Ds.
Most signatures were obtained by mailing to lists of university professors and a compendium that
constitutes a “Who’s Who” of American scientists. |
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If they are constantly changing the cause, (a.k.a. It is cause by Farting cows, your SUV, etc.) then
how can we be sure that we are causing it? Could the sun not be getting hotter? As ridiculous as it
sounds were they not complaining of "The-next-ice-age-is-almost-here" in the 70's? |
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Global warming occurs naturally, and I think that it is occurring naturally now, but it is
ultra-intensified because of humans. |
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At best, the global warming scam is meant to gain millions for the IPCC and other "green"
corporations. At worst, it is a ploy meant to take over the first world. I'm leaning to the first
bit, but one thing is for sure, the global warming madness must be stopped.
Out of the 3 research groups meant to prove global warming, 2 groups came up with inconclusive data,
and wanted to do more research. The other rushed to the microphone to proclaim their gospel far and
wide.
It angers me that one with no scientific credentials (Al Gore), has made a critically acclaimed
movie, and a NOBEL PRIZE!(how?)
Summed up, the whole ordeal makes me sick, and I can't wait till the whole green revolution is
over.
P.S. I don't like the oil companies. They're running the economy into the ground. Just like the
greens. |
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30 years ago we were told by scientists that we were heading for an ice age, wonder what they will
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Global Warming is natural, look at the data and there are periods within time that have shown both
warming and cooling, this includes what was called the "mini-ice age" within the 1800's.
Does man's activities effect the climate, yes, it has to have an effect. If anyone here has an
education that includes thermodynamics, it would be obvious that we have an effect no matter what
form of energy we use, be it carbon based, solar, tidal, any form. As we use energy, it changes the
natural equilibrium of the system. So if we use wind energy (which is a form of solar energy), then
something has to change, be it the weather cycles, speed of the jet stream, position of the jet
stream , something has to change, it is basic science. |
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I agree, though I do believe that we are accelerating it. |
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Everyone has different opinions but i have to agree that it is a natural cycle! |
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Yes, I do believe global warming is part of the Earth's natural cycle. At first, with the enormous
media attention, I was believed that it was predominantly the fault of man, and felt rather concern
for human activities.
However, having given global warming more thorough consideration, and also with more and more
experts coming out and saying that it is, indeed, part of the Earth's natural cyclical changes, I
have also come to the conclusion that this is the case, though there remains doubt in my mind that
we, as humans, ARE contributing to global warming in our activities, and so there is some cause for
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Global warming is a cycle that has been going on for thousands of years. The only reason we notice
it now is because we have the technology to detect it. The changes are so slight that one can't tell
by looking out their window.
I do believe that although it is a natural cycle, we aren't helping, and a "green" revolution is a
wonderful idea that can help with other pollution problems. |
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Global Warming is one such thing that happens in 1500 years and it is said that global warming has
got a lot to do with the cosmic rays. Though nowadays there is a general warming and that is caused
mainly due to the carbon dioxide which is emitted out of our body but still we can say that global
warming might have started earlier. It is one such natural cycle the effect of which is not felt in
every single moment, rather it takes long, may be more than a decade to understand that there has
been a natural change in the temperature and the earth has turned a little bit warmer than before.
But many scientists have come up with relevant proofs that say that global warming is definitely a
natural cycle. Earth’s climate is not the same as it was even 15-20 years back. |
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It is, but humans contribute to it, making it worse. |
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Humans are too blame because there making co2 as well. The factories, power plants are dumping their
waste in the sea with the current of the sea carries the waste north it causes the ice to break.
This time in 2020 we will be eatin a chicken or simfink on the beach at christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Let's help the earth once it s gone thats it. I want my sister child to see a earth that is clean
and beautiful. I DO NOT WANT HER TO PAY FOR MY BULLSHIT. I dont want a perfect world just a world
better than this |
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Global warming and cooling will always happen like the ice ages and etc. It keeps it balanced on its
own but we are causing it now. It takes years and years for it to warm up just like during an ice
age but we have did so in about a generation. We are the problem...we are the issue. |
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Global Warming might be a natural cycle. But it would not happen in our generation. Man pollutes the
earth with littering and destroy mother earth. Polluted gas from littering and factories etc,
release into the air which thickens the ozone layer and creates a challenge for the suns rays to
escape causing the ice to melt and global warming becomes. Man is a very high risk to the earth. But
we are here, why not make the best of it and save the world and try to stop global warming for our
next generation. |
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Have you seen "An inconvinient truth?" the amount the temperature has risen recently goes way beyond
any natural warming cycle. That chart alone was enough to convince me that man is almost entirely
responsible. |
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I agree that is may be a naturally occurring thing, but in ways we are contributing to it and
speeding it up, when we could do other things to slow it down. |
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I disagree, even if that statement is correct, MAN should be trying doing something and stop
contributing to it before MAN kills the planet and dies. To put the cause off on other causes is
childish, don't point fingers or make excuses, just fix it. |
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GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT NATURAL. I don't understand the people who refuse to believe the FACTS of
global warming. Even if, by some miracle, it WASN'T happening... Why is it such a bad thing to
believe it and change your ways? I know people who drive hummers and waste electricity ON PURPOSE
because they don't believe a single word of it. And I don't understand how someone can be so cruel.
Why not change your lifestyle for the sake of bettering the environment? Better safe than sorry,
right?
It is caused by man. By a number of things. And there is so much we can do to help. I admire Al Gore
for writing his book and making it into a movie, because he has spread the word to ignorant people
who don't want to give up their SUV's and to other people who would lose money if they were forced
to turn "green."
Global warming is happening, whether you like it or not. I don't know why it is so hard to say that
we caused it. People are on here bullshitting things like "oh it's the sun's natural comic rays...
Blah blah blah" but why is it so hard to admit that our shiteous lifestyle would eventually reap
havoc? Did we possibly think we could emit TONS of CO2 and methane and other hazardous greenhouse
gases and really keep going at this rate forever? I think not. Why don't you stop denying that we
dug this grave for ourselves and just start trying to help? Is it really that hard? No. So shut up
and actually DO something instead of blaming it on nature's natural course. |
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IT IS NOT NATURAL. Is the pollution we pump in to our atmospheres natural? Were you people alive
when the last ice age occurred? Our environment is being polluted and destroyed, and humans will pay
the price when the last straw breaks the camels back and disaster comes. |
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If there is an Ice Age, things would be COOLING DOWN.
It is all to do with humans polluting the earth, FULL STOP. |
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It's sad to think people out there cant see what we are doing to our world... |
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No - Research shows the earth has never gone through this cycle before, and the weather conditions
have a lot to do w/ what we are doing to the earth! The volume of what we put out here on earth and
dispose leads to changes in the environment for the worse. WE are the ones responsible.
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People are speeding up global warming because they are always polluting the Earth. |
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Global warming is a product of mankind. If the balance of carbon dioxide consumers and oxygen
consumers is leveled, then we may see some shifts in climate. But it is man that has upset this
balance, and, because we didn't react in a timely fashion to this in decades past, we are suffering.
The first person to propose that carbon emissions due to burning coal could be creating a
"greenhouse effect" was a Swedish scientist in 1896! But, of course, we thought it impossible that
we could drastically change the environment in such a short period of time and brushed it aside. In
the 1930's, the North Atlantic region had warmed significantly, and once again the theory of a
"greenhouse effect" was brought into play; once again, it was dismissed. 1950's - scientists
speculate that maybe we ARE collecting carbon dioxide (this finding was due to govt. Funding for the
Cold War).
Every so often, we come to the conclusion of "there may be a chance we are emitting too much carbon
dioxide," and every time we reject it as being impossible in our time. Well, we're wrong. Global
warming is not a natural cycle, because a natural cycle would balance itself (i.e. Animals use the
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Sadly there is nothing natural about global warming. Global warming is a phenomenon that results
into drastic change of climate. This drastic change is caused by the high levels of pollution in the
environment, cutting down of forests and polluted water sources etc. Untreated industrial waste is
the biggest contributor in the disaster that we call global warming today.
If industries and forest cutting is not checked immediately the damage may become irreversible. |
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Whether or not global warming is primarily a natural cycle, one cannot ignore the complex changes of
human existence upon the environment. It would be logical to assume, since humans utilize and
change the environment and its resources simply by virtue of their existence in the environment,
that at least to some degree, climate would be affected by same, including the affects of
substantial greenhouse gas emissions.
Also, when addressing climate change, adaptation and mitigation should be seen as complimentary,
rather than competing strategies. The strategy of doing nothing implies an "arms in the air"
fatalistic attitude, and is illogical. It makes absolutely no sense to do nothing based on
reasoning that we can't completely control or learn to live with the inevitable changes occurring.
If one looks at the four possibilities of action from a risk perspective, for example, here is what
that looks like:
1) We can choose to do nothing. (this costs nothing, but the trend continues, and therefore, the
risk increases without addressing the impact through adaptation or mitigation)
2) We can expend monies to take adaptive action (the risk can be lowered through adaptation; this
does not presume to make any conclusion as to whether or not we are contributing to global warming,
but still lowers risk to humans and life on earth)
3) We can expend monies to mitigate (lower risk through mitigating strategies; this presumes we are
contributing in some manner)
4) We can expend monies to mitigate and adapt (lower risk; partial degree of presumption that we
have some contribution to the situation)
So all options (except #1) -- at the very worst, either keep the risk stable or at least do not
increase it. Option #1 is the only option that allows the risk of the impact to increase
unchecked.
Now, let's make a comparison. Let's assume your child has cancer and is going to die. It wasn't
anything you did to cause it. But will you choose option 1? Will you sit and wait, and say this
is nature's course and pursue no remedies toward cure, treatment, or alleviation of pain for your
child? Perhaps one can see more clearly now the illogical stance of assuming a fatalistic attitude
that we CAN "do nothing" about global warming and so should we should be apathetic about global
warming. How utterly mindless and unconscionable that would be, even if our only action is to
adapt, we cannot afford to do nothing.
If your child is dying, whether or not it was a "natural" disease which you had not caused, would
you not expend all resources to sustain life and alleviate pain? You may take the earth's well
being as the metaphor. And if you HAD done something to contribute to the condition, presumably you
might be even MORE compelled to act.
I rest my case. |
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Global warming is not a natural cycle. We are the contributors to make our environment hot. Toxic
emissions from factories and emission of carbon dioxide gas from the vehicles is the main cause of
global warming. We should make individual efforts to save our earth. Otherwise, it will be too late
to even breathe properly. Government should also take positive steps by educating people about
global warming and how to make our environment healthy. |
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No! Global warming is not the natural process. It is all due to the current situation of the world.
There is too much pollution in our environment and due to that pollution our globe is becoming
hotter, day by day. Moreover, the number of cars and other vehicles is also increasing. Many
countries are testing their nuclear abilities and that is another cause for global warming. In fact,
global warming is due to the modern development in the field of science and technology. It is also
causing natural disasters.
Moreover, some famous scientists have also estimated the life of our planet because of global
warming. According to their opinion, our planet will be destroyed after a specific amount of time.
Another thing on which we should contemplate is the history, we don't see events that are happening
now, having ever been recorded in history. This is the proof that global warming is not a natural
process and it is due to the developments in the field of science and technology and nuclear
experiments. |
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For many years the man has been contaminating the earth and now it's time to stop it. Big countries
and corporations are afraid of the economical disaster if they stop their emissions of carbonic gas,
that's why we need a radical change. So I will like to start changing your mind first, hitomi. |
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