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Joe has been successful in destroying it as a debating site. He is like a disease, infesting every page. What is the point of debating with people if you cannot even be sure if you are talking to a mentally ill fruitloop. He started on this site as mad as a bottle of chips and has steadily got more insane day by day.
 StBalders  09 Feb 2009 23:07
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You can always tell who he is by looking for the seemingly ignorant and foolish. If he changes his prose and personality, then what's the problem?
 
 verum  10 Feb 2009 01:45
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Hm..first off this site will never die..
Second of all..it isn't Joe doing all this..it is the people reacting from what he does and making debates like these.

It's the warrior who acts, the fool who reacts.
So guys..get it together and stop the drama.
None of you are teenage middle school girls, so get your act together and just debate for Christ's Sake.

No excuses, I really don't wanna hear any..just shut up and debate. Because whether you want to admit it or not..if you posted on this debate, including myself you aren't wasting Joe's time, or this site's..you are wasting your own. And becoming the root of your so called "problem" of this site dying. It isn't Joe, if it was to begin with, anymore..it is the people making a big deal about it like a bunch of little girls. (Forgive me if you actually are a little girl; I still respect you.)
 
 Genkaku  10 Feb 2009 00:19
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 HIYA JOE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by  AssetParis
 10 Feb 2009 00:20
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Alright my friends and foes...
There is no reason to let a multi-identity ruin the site.

Identities don't matter. It's what they say and how they conduct themselves. Quit looking at this as people and look at it as its. When an identity does not want to make sense...stop dealing with the identity.

Then they make another identity. They make sense...deal with them. They stop making sense...stop dealing with them.

Attempts at saving people on this site from themselves are silly. There is also no reason for anyone to feel they have to prove themselves. Any of you could be joe9. I don't care. I'm not looking to have you over for playnight with the kiddo's.

We all go too long when debates are beyond reason, hoping the idiot we are talking to will address just one good point we make. Look for the identities who have something to attribute to reason and forget about trying to defend the sight from racists, religious fanatics and in my case...anti-god fanatics.

For the most part, it doesn't matter what we say in response to supposed important topics, those who agree with us think we're smart and those who disagree think we're dumb.

I enjoy most of the identities but I will no longer take part in debate with the identities joe9, pissean, dante or endy1, godbot and just about had it with keep. I'm not looking for any cooperation and don't intend to busy myself with some ongoing battle against multi-identities. I will continue to be myself and although I wish Hidell would moderate in a few avenues (lol) I hope Hidell continues also.
 
 justsumguy  09 Feb 2009 23:50
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 Brilliant. :-P
by  SlyOne
 09 Feb 2009 23:54
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You all should vote Pro-mandatory guns in my new debate. Then we can just take care of him the old fashion way.
 
 Specter87  09 Feb 2009 23:18
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 Dora the Explorer and Bob the Builder for the little ones... Priceless.
by  SlyOne
 09 Feb 2009 23:21
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Agree. He has ruined it. Although I'm sure I said this in a previous debate and you voted against it. The Plumber goes or the site goes.
 
 Hidell  09 Feb 2009 23:12
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 I have changed my mind. You were one step ahead of me Hidel.
by  StBalders
 09 Feb 2009 23:14
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R.I.P For and Against. If you want to save your site stop various users using one computer. If not, it's goodbye from me.
 
 StBalders  09 Feb 2009 23:08
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 I'm game for a pact to ignore him(s). I'm wearing thin also.
by  Specter87
 09 Feb 2009 23:10
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We're not dead yet.
Besides the wack doodles always reveal themselves. If you just prod them a bit in just the right way the wack comes flowing right out of the doodle for all to see.
 
 finsch  07 Mar 2009 16:56
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I wouldn't say he was successful in destroying it, because if he were; surely we wouldn't be here debating about it. And I'd hate to think I've been defeated by someone like him..
 
 MaYbCaKe  10 Feb 2009 11:38
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If the site were truly dead you wouldn't have posted your debate topic, you instead would have simply logged off and never come back.

Look I agree I'm frustrated with the multiple personalities and gamesmanship on this site. Frankly I suspect a handful of people just keep this thing going for kicks. I still enjoy the place though although I realize I'm not holding as many cards as these jokers. Whenever I stop enjoying myself I'll just take my business elsewhere. But honestly - declaring the site dead doesn't accomplish anything. And my impression is those of us with solo identity have done a pretty good job of taking our complaint to the table, so whether the mutliple personalities cease or not I think they've taken a hit on the chin more than they expected would happen. A month or two ago I basically threatened to leave due to frustration on this issue and some nice conciliatory posts soon followed, so I think some of these people know they don't have free license to run wild with their game.
 
 Grenache  10 Feb 2009 03:25
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 Your point has substance to it, and strength.
What one CAN do proactively then is just IGNORE the b.s. throwers in here.
Good argument.
by  AssetParis
 10 Feb 2009 03:28
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What do I hear is it a puppet is it a plane no it's a pirate. HA HA HA HA HA
 
 keepmindok  09 Feb 2009 23:26
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 you think this is funny that I am being accused of being Joe The Plumber, Keeps?

if it were you being accused, you would not be laughing so much.
His my2cents2u character is way 'round the bend today, if you get my drift?

so, what do you make of all this bullsh!t then? Bizarre is not strong enough of a word for this place......
This website has gone all the way down the drain, if you ask me.
by  AssetParis
 09 Feb 2009 23:29
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