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Debates are enriched, not impoverished, by links to external sources of information. It's clear that the moderators on this website implement a policy of cutting out bits of text which contain links to other websites or even other parts of their own website. This is a bizarre policy which should be changed. In my debate about the Chinese takeover of Tibet, I included a link to a mutli-thousand word article which explored the subject in depth. Looking at that debate again, I see that the link, and the text which described it, has now been excised.
 Hidell  29 Mar 2008 17:49
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I put the copied paragraph at the end, and site my source.
 
 XieXie  02 Jun 2008 18:04
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They should. I have had numerous responses ruined because of this stupid policy.
 
 Mark  07 May 2008 01:09
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Yes I agree... And made a similar post.... Which you disagreed w/ by the way.... Such a surprise
 
 baconbust  05 Apr 2008 03:29
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 Your debate proposition was much more general. You said they should never edit posts at all except in cases of threats or profanity. I didn't agree with that then and still don't. This topic is much narrower.
by  Hidell
 05 Apr 2008 03:45
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Yes, users are allowed to put link to support their argument as long as the link is relevant and a decent site. There was some moderation error, which resulted in some link being removed. We do apologize for this.
 
 shu  01 Apr 2008 12:19
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Links validate statistics, expand the debate, and help to guarantee a fuller understanding of the subject. There is no reason, unless of course it's an inappropriate site, that they should be edited out.
 
 TyWhyHiTy  01 Apr 2008 01:19
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If the technology is there for us to use HTML in the posts (I occasionally use bold or italic text to emphasize a point), then why can't we fully utilize it? Obviously within reason (malicious coding, etc), but we should be able to reinforce our statements by providing another source.
 
 Dan4096  31 Mar 2008 13:13
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I feel like the people who run the site although no doubt believe they know everything and are kings of the universe are not really very good at customer service or indeed lack a proper understanding of community building..

The logic behind link restriction is to stop the site becoming used for promotion of other sites or products, yet the wise thing to do is to put that within the T&C's and if you are taking the time to edit out links then take the time to check the link first to allow it or not..

It takes a just a little more time man hours but if you want to have proper debate and good returning users then that is what you have to do, it is worth it in the end.

The worst thing about them is that they edit posts and in my case completely delete a post and then never send you an email to tell you what has been done and why or better yet give you the opportunity to change what you have written.

Again a little more time consuming, but if you ran your business based on what the easiest option was all the time your business wouldn't last long and is certainly worse off for it.

I am still very close to not coming back due to their bad customer service and although a nice site, there are others far better run to choose from and will simply move on..

I wonder if their arrogance will allow them to take these complaints on board ? From my experience so far I doubt it..

I even sent them an email asking why something had been done and after a week have not even received an acknowledgement or reply.. For instance..
 
 Lawcom  29 Mar 2008 20:26
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 I’ve sent the staff about 4 emails within the past two and a half weeks, and have just received a reply recently. Just wait a bit, I suppose.
by  Hizashi
 29 Mar 2008 21:51
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I agree. In my debate with Stranger concerning the Big Bang, my most recent comment gave out multiple links to different sites explaining a great deal of information on subjects such as entropy, macroevolution, Newton's Laws of Motion, the Big Bang, and radioactive decay. I’ve noticed now that my entire comment, not just the links, was completely removed from the page. This has also occurred multiple other times with my posts in other debates as well, most of which had no links on them to begin with.
 
 Hizashi  29 Mar 2008 18:42
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As long as contributors are selective about what links they include in their posts, these should probably be allowed to stay. I imagine that the moderators may be concerned about hyperlinks used to take readers to websites with questionable content and the no-link policy may also serve as a way to ensure that posts are not used to promote other products or commercial services. I agree, however, that the link to the Parenti article included in Hidell's recent post on China's invasion of Tibet was useful and interesting, even if it added fire to an already heated topic.
 
 mackenzie  29 Mar 2008 18:08
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Yes, it should. Why include a facility for putting external links into a post then edit them out whenever someone uses it? At the very least, if this bizarre policy is going to be pursued, there should be a statement somewhere on the website which explains why.
 
 Hidell  29 Mar 2008 17:51
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 Have hyperlinks been removed from your contributions in the past, Hidell? I did notice that the section with the link to the Parenti article went missing, but simply thought that you may have removed it yourself.
by  mackenzie
 29 Mar 2008 18:12
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