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Family And God Show Us That Perfection Does Not Exist
The world, and mathematically speaking the universe also, is filled with contradictions and paradoxes. The jist of these phenomena is that experience leads to sensation. Yet, we argue and yet, we struggle to become better. Is it possible that ego is indomitable because it does not exist? Thusly is it possible that the source of anger is the desire to not exist just to emulate the idea of how good ego "must" feel like? And finally, isn't the reason mothers want their sons to be doctors just because that's the god they pray to?
 characters  26 Nov 2009 09:05
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Actually, imperfection suggests to some that perfect cannot exist.
Those who keep insisting that the creation is perfect and that perfect can be proven by the creation are imbeciles.

Now if one holds to perfect created imperfect in order to create persons...
 
 justsumguy  27 Nov 2009 16:31
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What "god"? It's a fictional character.
 
 K9  27 Nov 2009 13:25
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We, as human beings, are not perfect. That does not mean that God is not perfect nor that he doesn't have a plan for us that is perfect. Aside from truly dysfunctional families in which abuse (mental or physical) is present, I think that more often than not, the love and concern of our families is a true blessing. Often we find ourselves at odds with different family members, but in time we can learn to understand that even family members are not all the same and we have to learn to accept and respect their opinions even if we choose to agree to disagree. I don't think that most mothers think of doctors as gods or that having a son makes a parent want their child to be a physician any more than having a daughter does. My youngest wants to be a physician. I would love it if she is successful in that endeavor, but not because I believe that doctors are in any way better than any other person or that they are in any way like God. In fact, with fewer people choosing the profession because of the costs associated with practicing medicine, I think the main reason I hope she continues to wish to pursue that career is for humanitarian reasons. She is a kind and gentle person and very bright. In addition, she's a leader and she is strong in ways that I think would be a benefit to caring for others. She's only 13 and she may change her mind and wish to pursue another profession. Whatever she does, I'll be happy and proud of her as long as she does something that she loves and is happy. My oldest wants to counsel adolesents...she already is the little "therapist" for many of her friends. She has a kind and loving heart. I have never pressed either of my kids to choose any career. I wanted to be a homemaker and raise kids...something that I'm happy doing. Still, I have worked for many years in the medical profession and even though there are plenty of arrogant doctors who may have a god complex, they are NOT God and I believe most individuals are fully aware of that. I've told a few of the more arrogant ones off and let them know that they need to try to get over themselves so that they can be effective doctors who patients feel comfortable with. If one works with people in any manner, they need to have certain "people skills", but people go to doctors when they are sick, scared and not feeling well. They don't need an arrogant doctor making them feel like they are stupid or that they ar wasting the doctor's time. That will only cause some people to stop seeking medical advice and that's a dangerous situation. I have no problem letting any doctor I see know that I view them as human and no different from any other person other than that they have a position in which they can either bring comfort and healing to someone's life or they can make their patients feel worse than they do. If they feel they cannot treat others with respect, there is something wrong that they need to address.

Life will never be perfect, but we can find little pieces of perfection in some things if we aren't closed minded or cynical. No human being will ever achieve perfection, but striving to be the best we can be is all that is necessary and our families should be there to support us in that. Some aren't, but each person has his or her own reasons for the way they think and behave that has been shaped throughout their lives. Try to be forgiving of those closest to you. It's far too easy to see the negative and much more difficult to look consistantly for the positive when we are with someone on a daily basis. I hope that you get all of this worked out. I agree with Grenache that this debate might be based in some personal family issues for you and I truly hope that you and your family works through them if that is the case here. : )
 
 my2cents2u  27 Nov 2009 10:20
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How much of this is personal, Characters? It sounds like your family is very religious and wants you to be a doctor but frankly you think they're full of craap and have no room to talk. OK, but does that really have anything to do with proving there's no such thing as perfection?

I'd also say "perfection" is a human concept relative to what something is compared to. In nature there is neither perfection nor imperfection - there is simply nature.
 
 Grenache  26 Nov 2009 10:57
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Pah! Of course not, diversity dictates people are always falling behind, and people are constantly becoming both happy and happier. This changes the nature of god, and that changes the nature of family. Words themselves are constantly changing or more agelessly put:

Happiness is in the hands of the mcchicken.

Family doesn't provide any solid given any more than logic, lingo, licorice, or lollipops. People provide themselves with what they provide themselves with. Free will allows us to not appreciate that simplicity. And god does the same thing. Whether he exists or not. Eat at sloppy joe's; ride the walrus.
 
 characters  26 Nov 2009 09:09
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