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If natural selection is correct, then why is it wrong to enslave or destroy those weaker than you? "Survival of the fittest" should rule.
 Denmon2413  28 Jul 2008 18:49
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Hitler was a big believer in evolution. Look where it took him.

And yes, this is an edit. I want to clarify. I'm not racist - that is not the point of this debate. I just wanted to see what people would say about this.
 
 Denmon2413  28 Jul 2008 18:50
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 Hitler also was a painter, should we use your logic then to say look where painting takes a person? No.

Also plenty, and I mean plenty, of religious leaders through history have been racist, and I mean overtly wickedly racist. But that doesn't mean Religion must be Racist.
by  Grenache
 28 Jul 2008 21:53
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Wow this is stupid. I would like to first of all know how you know believed in evolution, and if he did... How can you prove that was the reason he did thing. Hitler has ties to the catholic church, and we all know what a great record the catholic church has towards the jews.. How many where killed because of what they said. Crusaders would wipe out entire villages of jews. Get our facts straight cause you look like a complete moron.
 
 Ribo  16 Oct 2008 06:29
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Genetic evolution is a dependable and versatile but slow and sloppy progression. When certain higher functioning animals began to be able to remember or learn behavior within the course of their life rather than having only instinctual inherited behavior things took a turn towards the more streamlined and intricate. Because then an organism could actually be trained or learn from other organisms around it. So then it became useful for higher functioning animals to interact more as they could pass on learned behavior. Morality, language, and empathy are a natural progression for a societal organism, as they facilitate a working society. This is exactly why it does not make evolutionary sense for us to act amorally. It takes only a little effort to see that as individuals Humans are impressively enabled for the whole survival of the fittest competition. It has only been through humanities evolving ability to coordinate and work together that our current world domination has occurred.
 
 finsch  30 Jul 2008 22:22
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Aside from the fact that none of this is even relevant to the science of evolution, it’s also a very poor argument against natural selection (possibly one of the poorest I've ever seen). Evolution is not racist. In fact, quite to the contrary, it’s the exact opposite. Genetic studies show that human beings are remarkably homogeneous genetically. This implies that all humans alive today are of only one biological race. How can a theory that links the human species to one biological race be racist?
 
 Hizashi  29 Jul 2008 22:21
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You misunderstand 'survival of the fittest'. It means that organisms with more desirable traits are more likely to survive, because they are 'more fit', and therefore their genes are more likely to be passed down, and therefore the organism changes, or 'evolves'. You seem to think it means the same as 'might makes right'. Which it does not.

Evolution is a proven concept. If you don't already know how, I can give you a logical proof of it. Just ask.
 
 sander  29 Jul 2008 05:46
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Evolution is utterly blind to race. In fact technically all the different "races" we label are all one single race anyway, the separation is an arbitrary human distinction. If a Tiger goes hunting people it doesn't care what color their skin are.
 
 Grenache  28 Jul 2008 21:51
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This is just ridiculous, there's no way evolution could be racist because racism is a claim of inferiority and obviously, if a species is alive at the moment, it is best suited for it's particular environment and cannot be inferior or it would cease to exist.

It's really disgusting that people who are utterly ignorant of science keep throwing this ridiculous nonsense out like they have a clue what they're talking about. You should be ashamed of yourself, Denmom2413.
 
 Cephus  28 Jul 2008 19:39
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 Yeah, I should be, except that evolution, followed to its logical conclusion ("survival of the fittest") means that the strongest, smartest, whatever.. wins.

I do not condone racism, but I have wondered why the white race has been on top rather than blacks, Indians, orientals, whatever...

any answer to that?

And as far as ignorance of science, its not ignorance, just a question. The only ignorance is someone who would rather dismiss an uncomfortable question than truly answer it.

So answer it: does survival of the fittest apply to people or just past animals that we really have no record of?
by  Denmon2413
 28 Jul 2008 22:43
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Your claim is disgusting revisionism on par with the lie that Christians didn't murder Jews in the past.

All white supremacist groups in the US have been Christians. You can't name more than one racist who's an atheist (Tom Metzger).

At the same time, all atheists - even the lone racist one - accept the fact that all humans are descended from primates, that all humans have black ancestors from Africa and that DNA has proven human migration across the globe in the past 40-200 thousand years.

The godbots are the racist ones, and use the buybull to "back up" their claim.
 
 K9  28 Jul 2008 19:14
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 Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood.
by  Denmon2413
 28 Jul 2008 22:36
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You speak on a animal level which is to broad. Speak on a human level. Humans have morals which some humans have that state manipulation is wrong. How is it racist? I know plenty of black people stronger than white and plenty of Mexicans stronger then whites. Survival of the fittest has nothing to do with race it has to do with species. This guy has very little muscle and is very slow. That guy is very athletic and has a decent IQ. They both have a boulder chasing after them. Who's more likely to survive?
 
 Smito  28 Jul 2008 18:54
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