Every Fossil Is A "Transitional Fossil"

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Every fossil we have is an intermediary stage between life-forms. Sometimes it's a link between species as in an archaeopteryx; other times it is a link between different forms of the same animal, as in horses. You yourself, as you sit there reading this, are an intermediary between early Homo Sapiens and whatever we will be in the future.

OzzieMan

20 Jun 2008 18:26

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True enough unless you happen to get one of the last generations of an extinct species. But that would be statistically unlikely. Oh and it's nice to see b00b has weighed in with a salient point. Has he mentioned how evolutionists are perverting real science yet?

finsch

20 Nov 2008 03:25

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read this
it's from one of your gods

David B. Kitts. PhD (Zoology) is Head Curator of the Department of Geology at the Stoval Museum. In an evolutionary trade journal, he wrote:

Despite the bright promise that paleontology provides a means of "seeing" evolution, it has presented some nasty difficulties for evolutionists, the most notorious of which is the presence of "gaps" in the fossil record. Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them… 3
N. Heribert Nilsson, a famous botanist, evolutionist and professor at Lund University in Sweden, continues:

My attempts to demonstrate evolution by an experiment carried on for more than 40 years have completely failed… The fossil material is now so complete that it has been possible to construct new classes, and the lack of transitional series cannot be explained as being due to scarcity of material. The deficiencies are real, they will never be filled. 4

v00v

04 Dec 2008 03:55

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David Kitts supported the theory of evolution he was just arguing against one particular Frenchman named Grasse and his interpretation of the fossil record. It should be noted your quote is from the early 70’s and is descriptive of a debate at the time between scientists who supported the traditional Darwin model of slow steady evolution and the growing support of theories like Punctuated Equilibria that suggested genetic change came in short bursts, often 5 to 50 thousand years, with long periods of genetic equilibrium that lasted perhaps millions of years. This argument which has garnered a lot of support over the years uses the fossil record to support its claims.

Heribert Nilsson is a loon. He believed that new organisms were constantly being created from non living matter, including orchids and elephants.

So you support your argument with one quote taken out of context from a person who has always been and still is a staunch believer in evolutionary theory and one quote from a crazy person. It’s called checking your sources. And by the way not only is this whole creationist propaganda crud of quote mining from any one with a science degree offensive, misrepresentative, and a complete logical fallacy, it also further shows just how weak your arguments really are.

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Every extant species is a transitional; every fossil is a transitional, evolution has no end points.

Andromeda

17 Nov 2008 14:37

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You must have an incredible imagination if you belive that

v00v

19 Nov 2008 03:20

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Of course. Unfortunately creationists tend to believe that a transitional form has to be literally half something and half another, example would be kirk camerons 'crocaduck'

sensai80

21 Jun 2008 00:07

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I saw that debate and nearly fell out of my chair when they hauled out the placards. And the thought that kept going through my mind was that these people have the right to vote!

OzzieMan

21 Jun 2008 01:31

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Of course, but try telling that to the creationists. Then again, they haven't got a clue what a transitional fossil is to begin with, so...

Cephus

20 Jun 2008 21:10

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Of course it is. We're a transitional species ourselves.

Mark

20 Jun 2008 21:00

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Yes.

The only way that statement isn't true is if there is a final end product to evolution. Those who deal in reality know that humans are merely the current model, not the end product - provided we don't annihilate ourselves and the Earth, of course.

20 Jun 2008 20:49

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"The only way that statement isn't true is if there is a final end product to evolution"... interesting tack.

OzzieMan

21 Jun 2008 01:59

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The Fact is transitional forms are non existent!

v00v

21 Oct 2008 01:06

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You’re a very stubborn person.

Andromeda

17 Nov 2008 14:33

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Actually, transitional forms are non existent. We see fossils that are variations within a species which is consistent with creationist science. But we do not see "crocoducks" like sensai mentions because they do not exist.

As for the horse model, Dr Niles Eldredge, curator for the American Museum in NY said "There have been an awful lot of stories, some more imaginative than others, about what the nature of that history [of life] really is. The most famous example, still on exhibit downstairs, is the exhibit on horse evolution prepared perhaps fifty years ago. That has been presented as the literal truth in textbook after textbook. Now I think that is lamentable, particularly when the people who propose those kinds of stories may themselves be aware of the SPECULATIVE nature of some of that stuff."

created

15 Sep 2008 01:25

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Dr. Eldredge has made a career in refining the theory of evolution, specifically what is known as Punctuated Equilibria which suggests that evolution instead of being a slow steady process is actually long periods of genetic equilibrium, punctuated with short bursts of genetic change that are largely in reaction to environmental stimulus. Since the 70’s when he and a colleague first came up with this idea it has gained a lot of support do to a correlation with the findings in the fossil record. That’s all he is suggesting in your out of context quote, not that evolution is wrong but that the horse display from the 50’s is a misrepresentation of how it actually went.

finsch

04 Dec 2008 06:45

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