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Equating Virginity With Moral Purity In Women Was Just A Patriarchal Attempt At Controlling Breeding Capability.
In most societies a woman’s trade value as a marriage partner was severely hurt if her virginity was suspect.
 finsch  11 Nov 2009 00:39
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I beleive this to be true in a historical sense, esp as it pertains to western civ. However, it is not necessarily the case in cultures not pre-disposed to a judeo-christian morality. That said, even in modern western civ...for anyone to suggest this concept remains the case is altogether smokin dope.....just watch jerry springer...or maury povitch....western civ and the concept of the female of the species moral purity is as dead as the concept of god
 
 skidog67  11 Nov 2009 21:01
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Makes sense to me.
 
 Hizashi  11 Nov 2009 10:26
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Let me take it one step further. All human life issues from the female body, including gods and demons, kings and paupers.. The sentiment was if you control female reproduction, you control your universe.
 
 tinseldove  11 Nov 2009 06:10
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The modern view of the major religions on abortion is simply an extension of that value system. Which means that pro life sentiment is really outmoded economic sensibility masquerading as morality.
 
 finsch  11 Nov 2009 00:40
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 I think your view is overly reductionistic. There is much more to sexuality and reproduction than economics. Man's control over women's behavior seems overstated. And regarding abortion, there are a multitude of factors regarding the morality of that issue. And not all major religions have the same justification for "pro life" sentiment.
by  charlee
 11 Nov 2009 15:03
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No, it wasn't "just" that, though certainly that happened/happens in some cases.
While women were expected to be virgins, weren't also men?
 
 Stranger  21 Nov 2009 16:44
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I agree this morality is a human social creation, I just don't think its origin is as simple as patriarchal. In our species as with many other mammal species the male does want to make sure his genetics are passed on and that his defense of his mate and his offspring is worth the effort and worth laying his own life on the line if need be. HOWEVER, the females in our species also know the incentive for the male to provide and protect hinges in part on the offspring being from that male and not from some stranger or from unknown origins. In fact I'd say ALL females know if their baby is somehow proven to not be from a particular male and that male finds out about it after the fact it may be a relationship ender and result in the woman being unprotected or unprovided for by the male. SO my point is BOTH genders willfully enter into this morality, it isn't just patriarchal. In fact the female's decision to try to uphold this morality is in effect an enticement, a selling point, a hook to try to get the best male possible to indeed stay and provide and protect.

Please, I'm not a chauvinist, I think women can do whatever the heck they want. I'm just saying the social origins of equating virginity with moral purity actually rest on both genders, it wasn't simply men imposing an expectation on women. When it started, whenever it started, it was mutual. It was part of the survival contract.
 
 Grenache  12 Nov 2009 11:48
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 For men and women to have had equal parts in creating that dynamic, men and women would have had to have equal influence in the historic societies in question.
by  finsch
 12 Nov 2009 14:31
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I Do NOT Believe "Controlling Breeding" Entered Into the Equation at All. MALE JEALOUSY Has Had More to Do With It than Anything Else. Men Wanted Their Property to be PURE and Untouched by Any Other Man. Since Men Controlled the Religions, Virginity And Moral Purity Were the Law of the Land.
 
 madoldman  12 Nov 2009 07:39
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I don't think I would characterize it that simply. It seems there is much more to a woman's sexuality than men controlling their breeding capability. In fact, I would say the "women's movement" reflects more of a male control of a woman's mating mores. Studies have shown how a woman with multiple sex partners has a more limited capacity for sexual fulfillment when she does desire just one life-long mate. A woman's physiological and chemical change to sexual intercourse is much different in one who has had a more promiscuous history. So, perhaps women are designed to be monogamous in the long run than to have "hook-ups." Women are not men when it comes to the bedroom---something that is also quite obvious. Men have really seduced the gentler sex into thinking they should behave as men do in this area.
 
 charlee  11 Nov 2009 14:15
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 i may not be getting the point here but a womans behavior is very seldom controlled by her father
by  Nicadeamus
 11 Nov 2009 15:14
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