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Perhaps the greatest military force ever known to man was the Spartan Army. I recently sat through a lecture by a military official that described the U.S. Marines as such a force. What's your opinion?
 Longhorn  28 Aug 2008 14:32
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I think the Marines are, unfortunately, front-line fodder. Maybe the Greek Spartans were too. The Green Berets, Navy Seals, CIA Black Ops and even the Army Rangers are all more elite, more like the Spartan elite "300" of historical fame.
 
 grokit  28 Aug 2008 21:57
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Actually, when I was in the service, the marines were our gate guards. They are better trained than the army soldiers, but they can't compare with the Navy Seals....neither can the green beret.
I'd put a Navy Seal against any Spartan, remove both there armor, and let them go at it.
No your fodder is most definitely..... Army infantry.
 
 paladen  28 Aug 2008 22:11
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I respect the capabilities, dedication, and sacrifices made by our modern military soldiers. But, sorry, I don't think of them as "Spartan's".

1) Most modern fighting is not as personal or up close as sword and spear play. Sure, sometimes it can be but most of the time they're shooting from quite a distance and encased in armors. 2) Spartan's made do with very little provision whereas our military is technologically outfitted to a degree envied by most other modern militaries. 3) Spartans were a culture which penetrated the very fabric of their society, whereas our military is something most of us don't think about very often even while we're at war. 4) Spartan's would rather die than be dishonored and I think our modern soldiers would opt for life instead of simply a glorious death. 5) Spartans primarily defended their own region and warred with their neighbors, it's not like they went halfway across the known world to push or defend an empire. 6) Spartan's in the Greek custom at the time took young boys as not only proteges but lovers.

Anyway, I'm thankful and respectful to our soldiers and I'm glad the world pretty much considers them the pinnacle of modern armed forces. However, I don't think they're Spartans.
 
 Grenache  28 Aug 2008 14:49
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 I would disagree on point 3; Spartans were not part of Roman society as a whole, and our military, like the Spartans, are not part of American society as a whole, as you pointed out yourself when you called it "their" society. Because we have an all-volunteer military, it is its own culture.
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 28 Aug 2008 22:00
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