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Dec. 25 Should Be Called Christmas, Not The Holiday.
Christmas has the name Christ in it, whereas holiday even sounds secular. Christmas is the celebration of Jesus's birth; it's not just an excuse to chow down on candy canes.
 heracross1  25 Nov 2008 03:29
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Good one. It's kind of sad the linguistic gymnastics that some go thru to avoid saying 'Christmas'. I saw a sign in one store that said 'great for holiday!'.
 
 Bugman  25 Nov 2008 12:32
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I couldn't agree more. It is enough that it has been commercialized beyond belief, which because I have kids, I rather enjoy on some levels. I like giving to them and watching them and their excitement, but watching adults become greedy and expect gifts is rather unnerving when the true meaning of the day is lost on them. Then, there are those that write x-mas on everything. If one is going to call it the holiday as you said or x-mas, why exchange gifts? What are they celebrating? You are right...Christ's name is it's name. I think, in the world of the politically correct, we have become so afraid that we may be speaking to a non-Christian that we are afraid to refer to Christmas as anything other than a holiday. I personally say Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone. If someone wants to be offended by my cheer, so be it. I also avoid other politically correct terms at times. I am so tired of keeping up with them all. I don't do it to be rude or inconsiderate. I feel that we are walking around on eggshells so as to not offend anyone anymore, yet we have to be offended all the time. I'm at the mall with my kids and have to watch kids come in with outfits that barely cover them and hear the string of profanities come out of their mouths, yet I don't get my panties all in a bunch. Live and let live. If I choose to use a word that some do not feel is politically correct, they will have to do the same as I do. Relax. The word Christmas has meaning to many of us. It is not meant as a slight to those who practice other religions. If I am aware of them practicing another religion, I wish them a Happy whatever goes with that religion. My children are half Jewish, so I would not wish my ex in laws a Merry Christmas, but I still refer to us celebrating Christmas. God and Christ is taken out of enough. This holiday is about Christ and his name needs to be left in it.

Very good topic....Good time of year to start think of this. We are nearing the Christmas and, truly, the Holiday season with other religions celebrating as well and with New Year coming up. Hopefully, others will read this debate, whether they contribute or not and choose to use the word Christmas this year.
 
 my2cents2u  25 Nov 2008 06:35
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Is December 25 not Christmas? Then why not call it Christmas? What's your point here?
 
 AxemRanger  25 Nov 2008 03:40
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 his point is that some idiots believe that GOD should be expelled from our culture. He is against that especially in this topic.
by  Feremeir1
 25 Nov 2008 03:48
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Jesus wasn't born in December.
It came from a pagan celebration.
 
 kitten  28 Mar 2009 00:13
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When you consider that the reason Dec 25th is christs birthday is because the church was trying to convert pagans who celebrated yule at the same time. When sifting through the clues in the bible Christ must have been born in late march/early april. Grazing herds and census. Remember the sun stops moving south on dec 21st and appears to be motionless where it sets for three days with the southern cross directly above, and then the sun is reborn on the 25th and slowly sets farther north every day bringing on warmer weather and longer days. But the thing is calling it christmas. Santa says ho ho ho merry christmas. Some say happy holidays, It doesn't matter at all what you say Its how you act during the time of supposed peace and love. Sharing, caring, spreading joy. The togetherness with family. Pity people couldn't act like that every day instead of having to create a day to be nice to one another.
 
 Organicman  26 Nov 2008 04:16
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No.

It is the festival of lights. A pagan holiday in origins anyway.
Call it the winter holiday - because that is what it amounts to.
Suits all.
 
 sylverwyld  25 Nov 2008 19:07
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Why? Christmas was simply a stolen pagan holiday that the early church adopted in order to make conversion of the local pagans easier.
 
 Cephus  25 Nov 2008 18:40
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1. The mythical "cheezus" did not exist. There is no evidence, only the claims of cults.

2. The catholic cult's imperialism (both physical and cultural) during the 4th to 7th centuries CE, attacked and destroyed both the structures and symbols of other religions - the burning of buildings, the destruction of statues, the claiming of others' "sacred lands", and most notably, the commandeering and perversion of other religions' holidays by imposing their own. Winter solstice and "hannukah" celebrations were perverted into "christmas", the Lupercalian festival became "valentine's day", the festivals of Oestre became "easter", the end of harvest festival of Samhain (pronounced "sow-en") became "all saints" and "all hallow's eve", or "hallowe'en", etc. All christian "holidays" are perversions of numerous and various pre-existing religions' holidays; in fact, many of the "saints" are in fact local religious figures co-opted by christians into their own mythology. Most pre-christian religions were female centered (another reason christians sought to destroy them), and many of their practices live on in the worship of mary as a supernatural figure, rather than just a teenager that "god" raped to produce his mythical "son". (More likely, mary was gettin' some on the side and lying to her cuckolded husband about being a virgin. It's not as if there were OB/GYNs around to check.)

3. Even if the mythical "cheezus" existed, the birthdate most definitely was not in winter. Shepherds in the Middle East, both now and 2000 years ago, do not take their flocks out to graze during winter. The animals would freeze to death in those climates, and written works of people from that time still exist to confirm that fact.

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Feremeir's response is so typically christian and unsurprising.
 
 K9  25 Nov 2008 14:11
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 But still Christmas is a better name than "the holiday", right?
by  Kirsty08
 25 Nov 2008 18:06
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It should be called Christmas by those that want to call it Christmas. It should also be called Great Kumquat Day by anyone feels like it. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion are very important. There have been times and places where Christians were persecuted and this is not one of them. Be glad you live in a place that you will always have the right to worship as you see fit and afford others the same respect.
 
 finsch  25 Nov 2008 06:31
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 I don't think it was meant that people who aren't Christian should call it Christmas. I think it was simply a statement that many Christians are using the word holiday instead of Christmas anymore. I do agree that other religions or people who are not religious should not have to refer to Christmas as Christmas. They are free to call it what they wish. I simply would hope that people are not offended when I say Merry Christmas, as I have done so my whole life, unless I am aware the person is another religion or does not practice religion at all. I do try to be sensitive to other's feelings. It is so hard to be politically correct all of the time. The words change all of the time and it is exhausting to keep up with all of them. I thought flight attendant instead of stewardess was bad, but custodial engineer instead of janitor....oh my goodness. I am one of the most polite people I know when out in public. On here, I may say what I feel and may not always keep things in, but I get so frustrated trying to walk on eggshells as to never make others angry and, meanwhile, I am annoyed that I have to do the walking on the eggshells. Anyway, I'm not coming down on you...I just started chatting after dropping by to say that I think you missed his point, unless it was I who missed his point. I truly like your responses on here. I've been meaning to drop by your shoutbox and tell you, but here I am telling you already. I'm not coherent at the moment. Should be asleep and cannot fall asleep. Have a good night.
by  my2cents2u
 25 Nov 2008 06:44
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