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Science, fact and reason say that creationism is wrong. Only faith and irrationality says that
creationism is right. Faith is belief without evidence or contrary to the evidence. There is no
signature of God on the cosmos... It just seemed that way to our ancestors who couldn't explain
things that today we take for granted. Yet some people still cling to bronze age scientific
beliefs. Hilarious really. Science is always changing because we don't know everything, and anytime
new evidence appears to contradict our theories, we change our theories to fit all the facts.
Religion and creationism never changes. If presented with evidence they reject it. Sad really, and
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Evolution happened.
God did it.
Everybody lives. |
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I respect a persons right to believe in creationism but the fact that they do believe it completely
baffles me. Creationist try to say that they have the answer, no arguments but the fact they say
that makes it even more unbelievable. Evolutionist say we probably know what happened without saying
that it is fact, the fact that we have an open mind makes it more appealing. I don't see what is so
hard to believe about organisms adapting and changing over a long period of time. Creationism seems
to me to be too flawed a theory to have anything credible about it. I'm not saying evolution is
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I agree... |
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The concept of Creationism is based on Christian beliefs. The belief that there is only ONE god and
the He created everything. This concept is folly as is the concept of ONE god and the idea that
humans are based on HIS looks.
This is the MOST pompous concept on earth. The universe is VAST and we cannot even see to the edges
of it. We are but a tiny SPECK on the surface of the earth let alone the universe. We cannot
possibly comprehend the origins of life on this planet or the reason why. It's like a cell in my
liver understanding the concept of a skyscraper. Impossible.
This is a pompous and self-serving belief in order to preserve an already FLAWED faith. Those that
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Creationism is a shamelessly dishonest, anti-scientific campaign against knowledge and human
advancement. It should be laughed at, not debated. |
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I was reading some of the responses and comments on this idiotic topic. Ok...I'm laughing...it's
some of the stupidest stuff I've ever read.
I'll humor our intelligent friends and say that "creationism" in the sense of a political movement
is dumb. The reason it's dumb is because it is used in relation to the theory and FINDINGS of
evolution.
Creation and evolution are two different things. The theory of evolution would have to go all the
way back to the big bang and keep right on going where cosmology is headed to have anything to do
with creation.
Even the silly notion of the Biblical timeline used by "creationists" could still be true if Adam
and Eve were the first humans who were created in Gods image (no...not looking like Brad Pitt). In
other words they were the first to get a soul. Autonomous. Thus, the story of humans with souls
begins.
Anyway...all supression of thought is a bad thing. All thought should be taught. All possibilities.
But it can't be.
I say let the fight continue. I say both sides are ignorant so let them wallow in the mire. We all
know there are teachers who are going to push their "beliefs" or lack thereof onto children. The
comments will be there. Oh yeah...we all know the religious will do it. Those of you don't think the
non-believer will do it are idiots. Look at the posts on this site. You expect me to think that
clear thinking realists aren't the same as these religious "pushers"? Well, I'm NOT stupid. They are
humans. They are eager to push their views. If they don't like the belief in a God, you can bet
they'll work the clay just like the religious pusher.
Fight over it in the governments and the press. Hold both your movements back. Some of us don't need
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Of course it's wrong. Humans didn't spontaneously generate. But have any of you thought that maybe
evolution was God's doing? It's said that God made people and then he made Adam and Eve. Could
this point to evolution?... |
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Creationism is definitely flawed. |
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This does not need to be debated, Creationism is not a possible theory. |
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Sure it's wrong .. It's unprovable and yet !!
Afraid believers will say it's true since they believe it is the only thing they where tought
and that if they don't believe in the whole religion fairy tale, hell awaits them !!
So the moral is fear of death creates religion..
Yes yes FEAR of hell because they are told from a young age that hell is a bad place and it's scary
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Yesterdays religon, is todays mythology.
At one time the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Norsemen, Native Americans ect.. All had a faith system
that worshipped more than 1 diety.
Then there was a push to reject all beliefs but the belief of one god....
One god that societies hide behind in order to cram their traditions, morals and ethics down
everyones throats.
Religious beliefs have been one of the major causes of war.
Too many people have died for religion, and IF there was a creator, I don't see how it would be
content with how many of its creations have been destroyed in its name.
If in fact it is please, then it is an egotistical entity I want nothing to do with. |
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The two go side by side |
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Creationism is wrong, the big bang, and evolution explain existence far more reasonably than any
diety. Please-no watchmackers debate, the fact the earth is complex does NOT prove it was created. |
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I just can't believe it |
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Evolution comes from looking at the facts and theorizing as to what they suggest. Creationism comes
from trying to force the facts to fit an existing structure. They are in no way two equally valid
theories trying to explain the same thing. In fact Creationism only exists as a politically
generated religious controversy trying to discredit real science and work a certain segment of the
voting population into a frenzy of fearful denial so that they will cast their vote and spend their
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Anytime I hear the word "Creationism" I think of that Gary Larson cartoon in which god is rolling a
snake out of clay and thinking to himself, "Well, shoot! This is easy!"
For the sake of this argument, I shall pretend that creationism is NOT a ludicrous idea that should
be ignored.
This whole argument is based on a fallacy: That the world, and by the extension the cosmos, must
have a purpose. It's the watchmaker argument in new clothing. But the fact remains that the world is
not a watch. The fact remains that the Earth, and the creatures and plants upon it, are constantly
changing. The theropods and diatrymas and trichordates are all gone. (Trichordates were marvelous
creatures which existed long before the dinosaurs. They had a central brain stem with multiple
nervous systems emanating from it; it was as if you had a spinal cord for each limb.)
So if Creationism is true, it includes creatures who were not well-enough designed to survive.
Doesn't sound like intelligent design to me!
Then we have the problem of the fossil record. The fossils don't show a neat climb towards
"irreducible complexity". Nor do they show species magically appearing. They show a slow steady
climb from primitive to complex life, with many false starts and dead-ends.
That sounds less like design and more like a system for trying different things.
(And of course, the question the creationists never seem to hear: Who created god? But I think we
know the answer to that one.)
Then you have the weirdnesses: Whale nostrils migrating to the backs of their heads; parrots who eat
poisonous plants and then neutralize the poisons by chewing on alkali rocks (lorikeets); flightless
birds with wings; a creature who lays eggs but gives milk (the platypus).
Now, do these sound like things that were created and placed here? Or do they sound like things that
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I really on the fence on this issue who knows did God create evolution? |
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It is definetly wrong! There is so much evidence on evolution it isn't even funny to suggest that
there was "creation" |
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Creationism is literally wrong. This is why it, along with intelligent design, has been labelled a
pseudoscience by the mainstream scientific community. This means that it is a body of knowledge that
claims to be scientific, but does not adhere to the scientific method. It is wrong that we should
encourage such irrational and illogical ideas, as they degrade the value of science, and disregard
the theory of evolution and the big bang theory which is the most plausible explanation for the
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Well, this is always going to be a matter of opinion, but I must say, evolution and natural
selection are far more likely than one omnipotent being creating the infinite universe in little
more than 6 days. Creationists always baffle me with their complete lack of logic and unwavering
faith in Genesis. I'm all for intelligent design, and can respect that theory, but being atheist,
creationism seems way to innacurate. For example, if we are all made in the image of God, does that
mean that this all powerful being has the potential for evil, as we do? |
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If a building is on fire, a scared little child huddles in a corner and thinks everything will be
okay or hopes the fire leaves. A mature adult looks for an exit and gets out of danger.
The Cretins - sorry, creationists - think they can hide away from reality and the reality of there
being no supernatural beings can be wished away. Those of a scientific mind look for answers and at
least try to figure out what's going on instead of hoping a non-existent being will solve everything
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How old is the Earth for all of you on the against side? |
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I don't think many people on this web page can comment without a detailed knowledge and
understanding of the nature and concept of evolution. (This includes the evidence to support it).
This point could be seen as sightly hypocritical, but I saw no better place to put my argument than
in the section that agrees with my ill-informed opinion. |
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I’m not completely sure on what boundaries the creator of this topic is meaning to be discussed by
their declaration of “Creationism is wrong” title, however, if what is being said is meant to
imply that Creationism does not have explanatory power, I must undoubtedly agree.
I’ve seen a lot of comments claiming the contrary within this debate and I must say that most of
which are not even worth considering, due to the fact that the arguments are poorly enforced and
most fall short of anything except opinionated reasoning. But for those that are worth considering,
I will briefly address them. For starters, I’ve seen a few people stating that Creationism
accommodates for almost anything. Let me point out that accommodation is not the same as
explanation. An explanation tells why something is one way and not another. A theory that
accommodates anything explains nothing, because it does not rule out any possibilities.
Accommodating all possibilities also makes a theory completely useless. Since creationism
accommodates all possibilities, by claiming “God did it”, it is not explanatory in any sense
whatsoever. In fact, as I phrased it in another topic of discussion, the explanatory power of
Creationism is basically equivalent to saying “It’s magic”.
I’m also surprised at the number of people who seem to believe that complexity automatically
indicates design. This is nothing but an “argument from incredulity”. On a similar topic, the
majority of people supporting the Creationist point of view seem to instinctively assume that design
must have an anthropomorphized designer. Design itself in no way implies a personified deity for
it’s designer. For example, designs appear in the clouds with no more of a designer than uneven
heating, evaporation, and other natural causes. I’d like to end my statements with a particular
question for the Creationist supporters. If the original designer (God) did not need a designer to
design it, why do you conclude everything else did/does? |
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Creationism (especially Young Earth Creationism) is one of the most successful myths ever
encouraged. The Archbishop of County Armagh in Ireland, John Ussher, once announced that, according
to his great understanding of the Bible, the Earth was created in the evening preceding October 23rd
4004 BC.
While I do not begrudge Mr. Ussher his beliefs, I do not believe his belief should be supported
through public education. The problem with Ussher's belief (as well as many other less blatantly
irrational theories of when the earth came into existence) is that they tend to purposely disregard
the stubborn evidence which indicates that the earth is much older than they say. Geology is the
science which first indicated the age of the earth. But soon thereafter Archaeologists began
building off of the work the geologists were doing showing that we can trace human lineage to a time
when there were human-like creatures but no actual humans.
This debate has had a lot of back and forth regarding what evidence exists one way or another. And
all of that is somewhat beside the point. Science is not about what you can prove to be true.
Science is about what you can prove to be FALSE. Most creation myths are not supported by the
evidence at hand. But part of the problem of the idea of Creationism is that it keeps shape-shifting
as creationists are slowly confronted with evidence which seems to contradict their beliefs. Their
responses are usually quite creative. Anything rather than consider their original assumptions might
have been inaccurate. If you're interested in some of the fascinating other explanations that are
out there you can check out Kentucky's Creation Museum (but watch out: They're very sensitive to
being ridiculed).
Finally, there is the topic of Intelligent Design Theory. And this theory, is actually not refuted
by any of the data that is out there. But I DO NOT consider Intelligent Design Theory a Scientific
Theory because it cannot actually be disproved. Intelligent Design holds that human life and,
indeed, life itself could not have formed into the various complex life forms we see across the
globe today without some Divine Hand at work in the process. But this theory cannot be said to be
Scientific because there is no way to disprove this statement. Could we measure the "variation" or
the "complexity" of a life-form in some impartial, standard way? No. These are terms of art not
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It's really funny that people against evolution say that there's no way something so complex could
have just "happened" and that there's no proof for it, so it must be God. There is no proof for God
certainly, but there is a wealth of information and proof of evolution.
Just because it is still a theory doesn't mean it's not legitimate. Gravity is still a theory - we
know it exists in some way, we just can't figure out why or how. Does this mean gravity is not
real? Of course not! There is something that makes two objects draw closer together, and whatever
that thing is it's what we're calling gravity. The same can be said for evolution. It's obvious
that it happened, we're just in the process of figuring out how and why. |
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There is only one creator for you to think other wise is crazy. |
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Not many words are needed to reinforce this point. We've seen evidence for many different ways life
could have been created through natural processes, some we've observed in real time ourselves. We've
seen no such evidence for a spontaneous creation however. |
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Creationism / intelligent design are philosophies and not scientific fact, unfortunately some people
try to pass them off as such to justify their own beliefs.
Don't get me wrong, everybody is entitled to their own opinion and beliefs, but do not try to pass
off creationism as a science. Creationism is a belief, faith is required, it is in no way a
science.
I always find it strange that so many Americans are unwilling to embrace evolution. I live in the UK
which has more secular views and have never met anybody who who would deny evolution or defend
creationism.
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Very wrong |
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Personally i find it hard to believe in creationism as it's from a source i find unreliable.
Whereas evolution is just a theory, it is an attempt at explanation as opposed to a blanket
explanation which says that it was designed by a great designer. |
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God does exist, he created evolution... Maybe evolution did occur (scientific proof says it does),
however God created it. There is proof God exists, and proof creationism occurred... So I run with
both sides... Until more proof unearths itself. |
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Faith is never wrong. God is never wrong. Therefore, this whole argument against God is wrong. |
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Who are you to say that a whole beleif is wrong? I know you are entitled to your opinion but dont
call it asurd |
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I'm on the fence here, because I believe in a creationism hybrid: God made the apes, then they
evolved, the first ones were Adam and Eve. |
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There are no facts in evolution, we don't know what Gods definition is for what all these
scientists are wanting to claim is fact.
What is fact is Christians are persecuted almost everywhere, what is fact is they can not stand up
in class and say hallelujah without the teacher telling them they are offending people.
People can argue God their whole life, and they will, its says they will in the Bible.
Furthermore all you people can believe the intelligence of other people and say "These scientists
are so much more smarter than you are, its great the things they have created cures etc, but that's
just it. THEY created it, and God gave them the intelligence or ability to.
God gave us all the ability to believe and choose what we want, and while you want to believe in a
History or Science Book that's fine but they always change, simply because Scientists can not stick
to one theory, their theories are ever changing, the constitution is ever changing, and for the
people that believe what all these scientists say, maybe you are just little lab rats they are
testing their theories on.
I don't need religion to believe in God and I don't need theology or words to prove his exists.
Yet all you evolution buffs need facts to prove you came from a monkey, I laugh when I think about
how much Darwin is laughing at all the people who believed in and follows his simple means of
gaining a pay check.
We believe the Government is deceitful, corrupt, manipulative, they have their own agenda.
My question are who funds all these scientific researches and furthermore when the Antichrist if
there is one appears, what facts will he give to why thousands of people disappear into thin air
let me guess, Maybe Aliens, or a new way of evolving coming into play. Its okay people "God
didn't return, we just lost all the children because their little bodies could not hold up to the
new found pressure in our atmosphere right. |
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If you would like to believe in evolution that is fine. But I have serious doubts. If we originally
came from monkeys then why are there still monkeys? Why did they not evolve too? To me this just
doesn't make much sense to me. Sorry. |
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Evolution is pseudoscience. There is no objective proof for it. It is just a theory that scientists
have become so enamored by that they take it as fact. I am not a "Young Earth" creationist, I am an
"Intelligent Design" creationist.. Evolutionists like to put all creationists in the same category,
but there's a big difference between Young Earth and ID creationism even though we both reject
Evolution. |
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It states quite clearly that God made the earth in 6 days and on the 7th day he rested. Anyone who
tells you otherwise is HELL BOUND and have no respect for our creator. Of course creationism is
correct. |
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God made all things. He is your Creator. |
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Yes, It is absurd to affirm only one "God". There are many religions in this world, each with their
own god(s). Also, to deny the evolution (another belief system) would be absurd.
And I'm just curious as to the "more credible way"?!? Each person's opinions are different.
Therefore what one person may feel is credible may not be so to another. |
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Snore...snore...if you cant be a little bit more ignorant, go cut yourself. |
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No, i disagree. There is plenty of information in our scientific knowledge base that points toward
a creator. Check out lee strobels "the case for a creator' |
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First of all, what are we debating here, Creationism, or the teaching of world religions?
Secondly, there has recently been a resurgence of militant atheistically writing, however, these
works, do not go very far to prove atheism, or evolution. Looking from the outside, it's interesting
to note that recently there has also been numerous books written by influential scientists, not
necessarily religions people, who have been asking if it is possible that there is a creator or
designer. These questions come from their research. Some examples are Michael Behe, "Darwin's Black
Box", and Francis Collins book on DNA. Presently, the arguments are coming from both sides rather
rapidly, and honestly, it would appear that those from the atheistic side are focusing on
discrediting religion, while those from the theistic/deistic/agnostic side, are simply pointing out
that scientific research seems to point in a different direction than the popular atheistic
evolutionary point of view. |
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I'm against the idea that God created everything from dust but i believe that God or whatever did
create the Big Bang, evolution and so on. I just find it to hard to believe, personally, that so
many coincidences could cause such a perfect world(correct distance from the sun, not to do with
human problems), with the exact distance needed for life to exist. That's just my view though. Is
that sought of sitting on the fence?
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OK guys... Lets get some stuff straight. The first rule in Science is that matter and energy cannot
be created or destroyed only transformed from one kind into another... So tell me if it was not
created then there was no creator. Fair enough. BUT, if it was not created how did we come to be
from a cosmic burp about 4.6 billion years ago, a little bit of slime which just became more and
more - that's creating all over again. So both scenes involve creationism, but the thing it boils
down to is faith. Hebrews 11:6 "Without faith, It is IMPOSSIBLE, to please God, those that come to
him must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of those that diligently seek him!" |
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Evolution somehow implies that one species becomes another. In other words apes became humans. But
we still have apes. As far as the mutations which occur today-Considered the concept that we
probably made them possible. Who knows what we've created with all of the chemical we need to
provide us with the "material things" we think we need. What other books do you know that inspire
such emotions in one direction or another other than the bible. That in itself should tell you
something. See, you may not listen but you know God is there becasue I don't care how mad you
are-when you are about to make a bad decision you hear him telling you it's wrong. He's always
there. If the voice in your head was "your" conscious, you'd have some control over it. You could
make it think like you think, but that doesn't happen. That voice is from outside of you, from
somewhere else. That voice always pushes for what is right and unless you just completely block it
out, it's always there even though we don't listen. He won't leave us. Baby, He's real. |
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First of all, who says that because there is a Creator there can't be evolution to an extent. When
you go blind most people find their other senses are intensified. Isn't this a type of evolution?
I don't believe in evolution as in a drastic change from a fish to a monkey and then to a human (if
NASA and the top scientists wanted to prove this they could put bacteria on Mars and see if humans
develop from it. The conditions there are better than the Earth was supposed to be like in it's
earlier years.) I think that evolution can occur in minor stages like a species adapting to a new
circumstance.
Second, how do you explain that a bunch of matter spread out gradually formed into a whole
universe without some higher intelligence? If you can explain that to me and how by some miracle
one planet got all the necessities for life while every other planet only got pieces of it then your
theory might hold some water.
If you honestly believe that a universe can be created randomly without any explanation than
why can't humans with all our intelligence make anything that lasts half as long.
Who said that just because God created the world doesn't mean he didn't use science. Science
isn't something that is used for denying a higher power, it helps enforce it. Take the carbon
dating that is used to prove the earth is billions of years old for example. In the Bible it talks
about how the earth was created in seven days, who says that those days are the same length of our
days? The truth of the matter is that how old the earth has no bearing on creationism.
You people say that creationism is "illogical" and flawed, but maybe you should look at your
own theories. You have no proof. You say it's illogical, how is the Big Bang any more logical? A
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Creationism is most certainly not wrong.
This debate totally refers to your theological affiliation, I suppose, but here goes.
I will using one of my very awesome analogies for this.
If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
I say the universe must have a cause.
Therefore, the universe has a cause.
Therefore, God exists.
This may sound a little closed minded... But think about it for a minute.
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I don't understand why? |
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I believe that creationism is correct. I realize it is a theory, but so is evolution. There is no
proof that evolution is fact, yet it is taught in schools. Creationism should be given the same
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It's not completely accurate either way. Creationism can make sense if you stop thinking that
everything that was translated from God to human ears wasn't perfectly written in the Bible. The
main arguments that I have are the facts that God is infinite, so one day for us could be one
thousand years for him/her. Maybe the evolution of homo sapiens was done by God, but just taken out
of context by the very humans that heard it first. Seven days for the creation of the Earth is
absurd, but how can you prove that God actually said seven days? Maybe Adam and Eve were the point
of evolution where we discovered our consciousness? To argue that God doesn't exist because it's
not logical is slightly childish, simply because all other "answers" aren't even finished ones. No
one has still found a plausible solution to the big bang theory, and besides the creation of
everything by a higher power, that theory is the only strong argument that nonbelievers have. I am
not for or against this topic, but it just seems that my side of the argument fits better into the
"against" category. Atheists don't have any more answers to the creation of the universe than
Christians do. The only reason why atheists make sense is because their side of the argument always
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Creationism is right |
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Creationism is right and wrong in my opinion
i think god created evolution and adam and eve are just two of the first humans. |
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Creationism is right. Now don't go assuming "Mark is some Fundy wacko who thinks the Earth is flat
and 6000 years old and evolution is fake!" I do not think anything of the sort. The Earth is about 4
billion years old, happens to be round, and evolution is true. If you accept the fact the universe
exists and has a beginning, it becomes obvious it was actively designed. If you don't, then, well, I
feel sorry for you. EDIT: I've been corrected on what creationism means these days. It's nonsense. |
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Mark  30 Apr 2008 02:05
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Every one can agree that before the Earth and everything else there was nothing, well answer this
question how was everything created, lets think about the "Big Bang Theory" how could nothing
collide to form something, someone had to place and create everything, this person was God, in
Genesis 1:1 in the beginning he created the heaven and the Earth meaning everything was created,
another thing that disproves evolution is that apparently for evolution to occur it takes millions
of years, well if that's true that's that theory completely blown out of the water as the earth is
only approx 6,000 years old, and if you say well there was dinosaurs before that you will say that
they died out over 6,000 years ago, so if this is true explain why dinosaurs are mentioned in the
Bible (Job 40) describes behemoth. Behemoth does not mean dinosaur, behemoth was a dinosaur. Anyway
dinosaur is a relatively new word it was only created after the first fossils were uncovered. I am
fully aware what the science textbooks say but i believe they are wrong. |
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What is creation and what is a creator? Do things that obviously have a design mean that they are
designed? There are many things that point to a creator in our world. Our world, in my opinion,
has an obvious design. I think that everything that works together to function, functions because
it was designed to function. If this is true, then there must be a designer and creator. |
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Creationism is a lot better religion than believing that snakes can turn into lizard i am a
christian and i am proud of it |
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YOU CAN`T see wind, or air... But they exist. Where do you think emotions came from?... How do you
think we are able to breathe, and how do you think our bodies are designed so perfectly that all the
blood flows exactly where its supposed to and our heart beats exactly when its supposed to?!....
Only God can create this. |
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Do you people believe the universe just magically appeared or the reasonable answer that a divine
being who always existed created? What is the origin according to you? |
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Creationism is most certainly NOT wrong, not at all. Here is why:
- Scientific evidence -
-How could a complex race such as humanity allegedly 'evolve' (remembering that evolution is still
not proven, it is a theory) from a muddy little microbe with no ability to think 'outside the box'
be able to come to us, the species we are.
-People say, well, Darwin was a genius! Guess what. He did not make good grades, he made an educated
guess.
- Evolution is a theory.
- GOOGLE evolution proof and you will get a lot of maybes, possibles, we thinks, and likelys. There
is none. And is there is any that does not have gaping holes in it? I think not.
- Religious Reasons-
These are the ones that are most effective.
- God said in Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth', look it up
sometime.
- Evolution is a theory.
- Go ask a pastor or priest. You will see.
Either way, you will eventually realize you are wrong.
-We are all sinners, me you. Nothing can change that. I may be getting off subject, but please
consider this. Good Bye.
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Do you really believe man crawled out of slime and muck? Scientists have no proof that man
evolved, none whatsoever and they cannot explain the missing link to Darwins theory.
God never said we were the first people on earth, IN the beginning, just means our beginning of
our time. Adam and Eve. The earth was a dark abyss of water, Starting over again probably. In
Isiah, he asks God, were you not the one who slayed the dragons? (dinosaurs??) There are other
creatures in the bible, fallen angels, that had children with women of man.....on and on. Again,
do the research before making such an opinion, and read the bible!
The Bible itself never actually states that the universe is 6,000 years old. The Bible never gives
any age or suggests an age of the universe. Creationists have concluded that the universe is around
6,000 years old. I personally think the universe is much older than that. I do not believe, however,
that the universe is millions or billions of years old. Can anyone comprehend a million years? I
certainly can't! I can't even begin to wrap my mind around people who have billions of dollars!
Also, scientist have admitted they find it is almost impossible to link the DNA between humans and
any type of monkey, or ape. It is just their theory! NO scientific facts.
OK, about the comment at the bottom. Don't know Carl Sagan. If I must get technical then here it
is....."the earth was a formless wasteland, and darkness covered the abyss, while a mighty wind
swept over the waters." Hmmm...kind of sounds like what it may have been after the dinousaurs
were killed off?? Just a theory. I believe we will all see the day where science and religion
come together. They do not have to be seperate! I feel God is the one who has given us scientific
knowledge, but man in all his power and might refuses to acknoledge the presence of a Divine Being.
Some day, the veil will be lifted to the spiritual world. Then we shall know all things. Prophesy
of the bible, (which by the way has a 100% accuracy record so far) No other book can claim that.
You should watch some of the programs on the History channel. They are shows that show
archeological proof of the stories of the bible. They are very inspiring. God Bless and may you
find your faith. |
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There has been proof uncovered that creationism is correct, along with proof that evolution is
wrong. But I can guarantee you that within the next two decades, scientists will say they were wrong
on evolution, but will invent a whole new concept there and then. I can guarantee you, just wait and
see. |
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All these things the evolutionist are saying about Creationists just see what the want to see are
absolutely correct. But you have to understand that evolutionists to the exact same thing. We all
have presuppositions that determine how we see things. The evolutionist worldview cannot account for
things such as logic or scientific laws because they have no absolute standards and steal from the
Christian worldview. To evolutions, they cannot be anything more than social conventions and it
simply does not follow. According to that, there could just as well be a society that says it is the
case that my car is in the parking lot and it is not the case that my car is in the parking lot.
Laws of logic are not conventional nor are the laws of science and simply cannot be explained in the
evolutionary worldview. The Christian worldview explains this completely because they are the
character of God, exhibited in us. |
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Your argument is like, "are you with me or against me?" There are so many colours between black and
white. I am believer in Creator, and I believe in evolution as well. Evolution of species does
exist. Babies evolve in the womb of mother, trees evolve, insects and animals evolve, earth evolves,
in fact the whole universe has evolved in the past 14 billion years. That doesn't prove that there
is no 'EVOLVER". It only shows that Creator choose the evolution process in our creation. |
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I'm AGAINST IT!!!
Ahh!! I love the arguments in everyone the "against it" section. It totally rings true to my heart.
I do see God everywhere! His beauty. Creation is just too darn beautiful to believe that it all
evolved and happened by chance. People (part of creation) are just too amazingly built: Reproductive
system, ears, eyes, brain, mind, a conscience (the sense of right and wrong),etc. I just will NEVER
allow myself to believe in anything different than a creator. |
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