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Christmas is a christian holiday superimposed over the winter solstice by insecure papists, as is
easter over spring. We want our festivals back!!!!!
Then, at least they would be relevant. |
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I agree this is why Thanksgiving has always been my favorite holiday. More about family without the
stresses of shopping. |
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True. The bloody materialists have hijacked the festival that represents the first coming of Jesus.
It really sucks now. |
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Apart from the nativity, Christmas has lost its appeal and its sparkle, as a time of year to
reflect, or get together. It' was family and friends and helping those who would otherwise be alone
at that special time of the year. Now it is all commercialized, and people showing off. |
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I am forr Christ-mas Day, but not the way that most of us have celebrated it practically all our
lives. Commercially programmed to shop early, laywaway buy, buy, buy, buy, until your are broke,
for some. When was the last time you heard a child wake up and say Yea..!!! Its Jesus Christ
birthday !!!! No way, it's let's go see what Santa brought me. Whatever month or day he way born
on, if we are incorrect in the day so what, I say happy birthday Jesus anyway, because I have heard
the date isn't accurate. But, how many gifts did the 2 wise men bring him 1 gift per wise men. So,
why are we buying all this expensive stuff and where does the booze come in at Xmas parties, people
getting drunk, whatever. What's holy about that? Picture this,.... Your birthday, everybody is
celebrating on your birthday, but buying themselves and everybody else gifts, partying, etc., but
you have not been acknowledged of this big event which is supposed to be your day. Other than
hearing the kids and wives, husbands, etc., say well ..... What did "you" get for Xmas? Sometimes
you really have to stop and think of what we all have been doing for so many years. The merchants
are happy, we have helped them get rid of a lot of merchandise that they were not able to rid of
during the year and now since Thanksgiving and Xmas are upon us, we can help them make their quota
or some of it before the fiscal year end for audit and tax purposes. |
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I have birthday near Christmas to celebrate my being in this world cannot my extended family have my
church service and lunch and cannot the queen make a speech for me? I never actually never got what
i needed i thought of things i needed to survive in the summer. There nothing but getting close to
each other in the cold months of the year and not for me. |
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I think that Christmas should be a time where you celebrate Jesus. I mean in the word
Christmas...the main word is CHRISTmas. There is a reason why this holiday was named Christmas! |
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Xmas has nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus Christ. How can you honor the Spirit of Truth by making
a lie? See www.heathenholidays.com for some history. |
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I have been anti-Christmas most of my adult life. I consider “the holiday season” to be nothing
but mass psychosis, created by cynical marketing forces.
When you factor in that many small businesses rely on Christmas for more than 50 percent of their
annual profits, this becomes patently obvious.
Even without bringing in the argument that we no longer use Christmas to recognize Jesus’ birth,
Christmas is offensive. The average American spends thousands on useless gifts bought with often
already maxxed-out credit cards.
The prime motivator of gift-buying is simple guilt -- if you buy me a gift, I feel obligated to
reciprocate. This feeds right into the hands of marketers: You have to prove (or “buy”) love at
Christmas with gifts.
It is easy to “just say no” to holiday consumerism. Ask your friends and family to NOT exchange
gifts with you -- you’ll be surprised by the response. |
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If you analyze Christmas, it is blaringly obvious as being a pagan holiday. Do i think Christians
should celebrate Christmas - no. I get tired every year of seeing nativity scenes, and "come to
church" signs.
I'm a Pagan Minister. It's a Pagan holiday. Tree with stars on top - how much more pagan do you need
to get?
The same could be said about easter eggs at easter too lol |
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Christmas could be considered wrong in some sense. The 'Christ' has certainly been removed from
Christmas, so the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ has almost entirely been lost from the
spirit of Christmas.
Christmas seems to have become instead about gluttony. Gluttony of food and drink, gorging on
presents and cards and celebrating consumerism more than a happy time in the life of the son of
God.
Now, I'm not even a christian, but I do believe that taking over the christian festival period of
Christmas with rampant consumerism should surely be wrong.
Surely Christmas is about being with family, showing them that you care, not about preparing lavish
and extravagant gifts ,or trying to keep up with the Jones'.
Decorations, trees, food, none of this is in the real spirit of Christmas.
I wouldn't say that Christmas itself was 'wrong', I'm not sure 'wrong' is the right word. Instead,
I feel that Christmas has perhaps become an entirely different thing and perhaps we shouldn't even
call it Christmas any more, because that is not what it is now.
I don't advocate calling it the 'mass of consumerism festival' either, but I believe that we should
use this time to do things with our friends and family. It's great to show someone that you care
with a gift, but even greater to show them that you care with your presence (rather than presents)
and attention.
The Christmas period contributes massively to strained marital and other types of relationships, it
massively increases the amount of debt that people get into. However, our Western economies do
really well at Christmas because people spend, spend, spend.
I don't think the wise men knew what they had started when they brought their gifts to the infant
Jesus. |
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Certainly, Christmas should not be celebrated at all and it is wrong. In fact, people have neglected
the teachings and sermons of Jesus who said in his sermon the following great words, "Ye have heard
that it hath been said, `Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy.' But I say unto you,
love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
despite fully use you, and persecute you; that ye may be the children of your Father which is in
heaven: For he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and
on the unjust.". But all people have forgotten it, so Christmas is wrong. |
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I agree with Mandaz17 and its also atime to get closer to your family and friends and see relatives
you havent seen in a while... |
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Christmas is not wrong it is a wondferful holiday that frineds and family come together to celebrate
the birth of jesus.. |
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I teach my children that xmas is about the birth of christ not presents |
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I don't think Christmas is wrong; it is what you make of it. Christmas, at my family's house, was
about getting everyone together to have a good time, regardless if there were presents or not. Now
that my brother and I have grown up, there are relatively few presents, but the spirit of Christmas
is simply taking the time to hang out with the family.
Now I have seen families that go nuts on Christmas, but they don't spoil it for my family. |
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I think the stress with presents are all worth it to see the smiles when people open the gifts. You
can enjoy a great meal with family and friends. And there is never to much drinking and kissing in
the beautiful white snow. And it brings families together. I love it. |
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Christmas is about getting together with your family and celebrating the coming of Christ, it is not
at all wrong. |
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I love eating and drinking too much. And anyway, all of you who think Dec. 25th is about the birth
of Jesus Christ are incorrect. The holiday's origins can be traced back to pagan rituals
celebrating the winter solstice. Chew on that. |
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Your idea of what Christmas was about is wrong. It is Jesus' birthday. Period. As CHRISTians, we
celebrate his birth, the sending of a savior. It is a CHRISTian holiday, the world has turned it
into something else. |
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Christmas is definitely not the way it used to be...but it will never be wrong. It's the birth of
Jesus Christ--enough said. Also, while it is true that people go money crazy and get spoiled with
gifts, they are at least giving to others. My family is very giving and Christmas is a good time of
the year for us.
But people do need to settle down. Can't deny that. |
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Christmas is not wrong, it has merely lost its meaning. Whereas it used to be a celebration of the
birth of Christ, now it is merely an orgy of money-making. One shop near me is already selling
Christmas decorations - in JULY!!! I doubt that most of the people who celebrate Christmas actually
know what it is they are commemorating. |
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Why you picking on Christmas? It's always been good to me? |
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Christmas is the celebration of Jesus! Of course it isn't wrong! |
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Of course it isn't wrong!! Christmas is a time of year that brings great joy to a lot of people and
brings families close together which no one should object to, unless of course you are of another
religion because some don't celebrate it which i fully accept!! But also for those of us who
disagree that are Christians, remember Jesus Christ was born at this time and that ultimately we
celebrate it for his sake!! I personally think this is a great time of a year not only for the
religious people but for families. |
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Even though Jesus wasn't born in December Christians celebrate Jesus' birthday on Christmas but
Christmas has lost its meaning by saying x-mas taking Christ out of it and now it focuses more on
santa(which is stupid)
and presents than the fact of its Jesus' birthday |
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No because we all still celebrate jesus's birth so it hasn't lost its meaning. |
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This is an interesting debate but i don't think there's any one way to argue against Christmas.
Even in the clearest most malign emotions toward the holiday that is the very thing Christmas tends
to affect? No? I mean... Its a collective sigh of relief... I'd be all for more education on the
paganism behind it and the Christian evolution of it (NO PUN INTENDED BUT WOAH!)... But shopping is
not Christmas, marketing is not Christmas... I deeply hope those trends are going out the window
with bush's presidency... I'm so afraid he will find a way to get a third term... But as far as
devoutly denying Christmas... That's so selfish... It's like the greatest time of good feeling
throughout the year and your going to go out of your way to tell your friends and family not to
include you?
It's too clearly intentional to just be thoughtless, but its like a great process of thought to
justify ignoring the simplicity of being with your loved ones and smiling for the kids for "no good
reason" other than it is simply christmas... Sense of tradition and what not... One day when santa
claus is completely forgotten and jesus is just a barcode embedded on our palms it'll probably be
better but the day the world peaceably puts a black jew on their hand for the sake of progress seems
pretty distant... Plus there's eggnog |
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It depends on the person if they want the meaning of Christmas to be lost..
Most of the people celebrate Christmas that is why it is still meaningful |
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Actually no b/c its originally to celebrate Jesus' birth and it still is |
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It can be a challenge to make it a wonderful time, but it can be done. If you have a hard time with
it, it is best to try and make peace with it, otherwise you are pushing a very large rock up a very
steep hill. |
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In many cases I believe people allow Christmas to be by far too commercial but at the same token I
think Christmas is very much what you make it. I think Christmas can be a great time of year to just
have fun with your family it does not need to be about shopping or racking up debt to buy the
coolest things of the season. I also do not believe one must be religious to take part either.
Christmas means something different to every family. I do not see anything wrong with that. |
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I don’t find any wrong to celebrate Christmas in one’s wish and style. As the years are passing
in a fast pace, life is passing in a faster pace too. Today’s people can earn money and thus they
can enjoy or celebrate to their own way. Although we could not be able to know the history of the
holy Christmas, we can enjoy this day in our way of celebration. I find nothing wrong in it. Modern
men work hard and thus they burst out in enjoying whenever they get chance and Christmas is not a
different case. They enjoy the day wholeheartedly with their family and friends, eat-drink-party in
a overwhelm manner. Because they know there is the next day waiting again back to its general shift
from 10 to 5. So what’s wrong in celebrating the day with full of joy and prosperity? |
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It’s how you / the people celebrate it. Christmas as well as any other holiday is what you make
it. The way to change it would be to teach the correct meanings at home, home is where change will
start and only at home can one start to make a real difference. |
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Christmas hasn't been even a primarily religious holiday for well over a century now, people who
think that it is are living in a fantasy world. It's a secular, far-too-commercial holiday
characterized by getting together with family and exchanging gifts.
If you want to add religious elements to it, that's fine, but understand that *YOU* are the one
changing Christmas, not society. |
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No that's very unsure. I don't know where you come from but in my town it's not about that. We run 3
different drives - food drive books drive and toy donation- at our school every year during this
seaso. We have a huge celebration downtown and I doubt that anyone is left home with no1 to talk 2
(considering the fact that its a small town) on Christmas Eve or day. There's always a place for
everyone and most people in their place. Christmas hasn't lost it's meaning but SOME people have
lost their spirit (not naming any names - theseeker-) |
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Christmas is not wrong it’s just different today. It is true that people indulge more in shopping
and eating etc then the activities that truly make for Christmas but we still get a chance to spend
some time with our family. Family reunions and meeting relatives and neighbors is something everyone
needs to do more today as these relationships are suffering due to our busy life routine Christmas
provides us with a chance to do that.
The spirit of Christmas puts a smile across the faces of billions and makes them care free for a few
days. Something that comes with such pure joys of life can not be wrong! |
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Christmas isn't wrong. I think that these days it is far too commercialized, but it isn't wrong,
It's a time to be with family, help others in need (I know I do that), and for Christians, to
celebrate Jesus. But I don't think it is wrong - if people do think it's wrong, perhaps they aholt
celebrate it. |
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Christmas is not wrong but the way people now celebrate Christmas is wrong. People have lost the
purpose of this day. This day is to thank God for His blessings upon us and celebrate the day of
Jesus birth. Say hymn and to get busy all the day in prayers is the true essence of this day. We
should educate the young children for what this day is about so that they could spend the life
accordingly and then teach their children in future. |
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No, Christmas is not wrong at all. Although some people have taken it in the wrong way, it can be
celebrated in the right way as per below:
1) We should help the poor and needy people.
2) We should involve other people into our celebrations of Christmas.
3) We should give food to the hungry.
4) We should invite our neighbours to our Christmas functions, especially so that all of us can give
time to each other.
From the above points we can say that we should celebrate Christmas and enjoy that moment in life.
Therefore, Christmas is not wrong. |
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04 Dec 2007 14:58
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