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I agree. I grew up in a Christian home for the majority of my life, an i had sex before marriage.. A
lot of people who are Christians/Mormons do.... ...and I'm all for same sex marriage too. Love is
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You got us by the **** now, yes, moreno.
For once I have nothing at all to say. |
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Few people live by the standards they expect from others. Christians have no monopoly on hypocrisy. |
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I am a christian but i agree no one sin is greater than the other and i hate how they act like what
they do is wrong but its still better than what someone else does. My friends boyfriend will say
stop cussing on sunday but if she took her clothes all off hed be ready to jump on her on a sunday
and that's fornication cuz their not married and i hate how some Christians feel the need to tell
everybody else what to do. Forget that get your life rite first then you can look down on me but no
one will ever be perfect so u can never look down on me. And i think there's a difference between
offering friendly or helpful advise to someone about their lifestyle and looking down on someone.
The advice i don't mind its the looking down i cant stand. |
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I'm casting my vote...you know how I feel. |
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Christians sin up a storm, in fact, usually worse than most others and then act like they have a leg
to stand on when wagging their moralistic finger. The most fundamentalist Christian you are, for
instance, the more likely you are to get divorced. Those that pretend to commit to chastity until
marriage actually end up having MORE sex partners outside of marriage.
It's ridiculously hypocritical. |
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This is sadly quite true and it is a sign of hypocrisy among many Christians. It is clearly both
unreasonable and dishonest to enjoy pre-marital sex, which all mainstream churches frown upon, and
then express moral outrage over same-sex relationships and homosexuality in general. Those who fail
to question this double standard have either not thought the issue through properly, or are simply
being remarkably hypocritical about it. Those who engage in premarital sex are not in a position to
provide anyone else with unsolicited lessons on what they believe constitutes appropriate sexual
behaviour.
Equally unfortunate--and perhaps even more infuriating to their target audience--is when Christians
who have engaged in premarital sex tell their openly homosexual friends, neighbours or family
members, that God still loves them and has called them to a life of chastity. In this context,
chastity refers to celibacy, but it takes a lot of self-confidence to tell someone that their life
mission is to remain single. A better solution for all Christians would be to avoid getting bogged
down with issues of sexual morality. |
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Yes. It's clear that Christianity has only survived because of its remarkable flexibility in the
minds of the people who claim to practice it. Jesus preached pacifism yet they practice war. The
church preaches sexual morality, yet they routinely defy it. The Catholic Church opposes the use of
any birth control methods yet the Catholic fertility rate in the US is virtually the same as the
non-Catholic one. The churches denounce homosexuality yet homosexuals still belong to them, making
up their own personal variation of Christianity as they go. |
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Lol, good point.
Kinda hypocritical, isn't it? |
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What does homosexuality and pre-marital sex have anything to do with each other?
Christians don't HATE homos; they just don't AGREE with their lifestyle. I'm Christian and I have a
bisexual friend, and while I don't hate her I don't agree with it at all and would rather not know
anything she's doing. I don't know any Christians that have had pre-marital sex...and those who
have aren't real Christians and so it's technically wrong to call them Christian. |
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Yeah, those two things are almost related! Brilliant.
How's this...
Liberals hate freedom and yet some liberals watch football on Sundays!
Heathens! |
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Ok...it will never end. Over and over and over and over. Christians. Anyone, (including thoughtful
people on this site) who uses the word christianity without defining it, is being absurd.
Most of the time, we assume the definition falls somewhere amongst religions which claim to follow
Christ.
Hidell actually skimmed over the real issue while making his usual idiotic blanket reference.
In truth, doesn't matter if you believe in any of it or not, Christianity would describe a practice
based upon the teachings of Christ. Again, Hidell points this out.
The teachings of Christ have NOTHING to do with hatred. Period. End of debate. Christians do not
hate homosexual behaviour. Christians don't hate Satan himself.
As for the second half of the topic, Christians are as bad as anyone. Period. If they weren't, they
wouldn't need to follow Jesus. They would think they could survive on their own. There are many
people on this site who feel they can survive on their own or don't need to survive. Believe it or
not, these people are just as bad as the Christians. But being just as bad is simply being the
same.
Anyway, it's a great point in regards to people who claim to follow Christ while pointing their
fingers at other people. If it was put in this fashion I would be in total agreeance. |
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YOUNG RUVA..................
I am not a christian or anything,and NOT ALL ATHEIST JUDGE CHRISTIANS AND JUST BY SAYING THAT. But
I am engaged to a christian,and he doesn't mind the fact that I am a bisexual.And I have waited for
the one that I love,and the same with him, and I know that I will be with him until the end of time,
and the Christians that I do know,I HAVE NOT I DO NOT NOW AND NOR WILL EVER JUDGE THEM JUST BECAUSE
THEY ARE CHRISTIAN! SERIOUSLY YOU NEED TO TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT US
ATHEIST!!!! |
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Well i don't get it you atheist you go telling us we r judgemental and we look down on people when
you are the ones being judgemental you are the ones who look down on Christians i am a young
christian and i know many Christians who have had sex before marriage i think everyone in my family
nearly has but most of them repent and most of them are young like my sister she has i went to a
youth speakers thing yesterday and they were talking about being successfully single and the woman
speaking admitted she hadn't done right but she repented and you will be amazed how pure and happy
she looked :) i don't agree with homosexuality but i do not really care and so do my christian
friends and family WE DONT CARE we have far more things to worry about than your stupidity really i
mean how childish is this post please stop being so childish and judgemental i do not believe that
we should judge because in the bible it says that you should not judge other people because you have
no rights let god judge the other people' stop trying to fool yourself that we care we don't!! |
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Maybe you should just say "the Christians that I know" not judging them, because most of the real
Christians I know are virgins or waited for marriage. Do you not know that even a whore or a thief
can go to heaven if she/he repents, because we are SAVED by the grace of God, NOT by our own works,
should any man boast. Maybe you should have a pastor explain these things to you. If I slept with
the football team on Monday, and then heard the gospel on Friday and TRULY repented for my actions,
turned away from my sin and honestly vowed in my heart never to do it again and follow Jesus Christ
as my Lord and Saviour, if I died on Saturday, I would go to Heaven. That is why salvation is a
precious GIFT, anyone can obtain it, you cannot earn it, because ultimately we do not deserve it.
Think about it, when a precious new baby is born, you just do not pick it up, you wash your hands
first, why? Because the baby is so clean and pure and you know your hands are dirty, how much more
dirty will you feel in the presence of a pure and clean, RIGHTEOUS God, you gotta get right first by
cleansing your sins and your heart before you can come into his presence. |
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I'm not so sure about the MOST part. Yes a lot of "Christians" do have sex outside of marriage. But
this does not mean they OUGHT to do so. If murder is wrong, you kill someone, and you make some
excuse that I cant say anything because I told a lie one time, how in any way does that effect the
reality of your murder being wrong? They both are wrong and I despise both. We shouldn't expect
perfection in a fallen world, but we should expect people to try and aim for it anyway. |
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First off, not every Christian has premarital sex. Secondly, just because someone else sins doesn't
mean you get to, that's like saying since someone got murdered I should be able to rob a bank, it
just doesn't work. |
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Everyone is a hypocrite in some way. No one is perfect. In fact atheist say Christians are
intolerant, but do nothing but belittle them all the time (don't deny it. It's all over this site).
Isn't that in it's self intolerant?
Also you're making the presupposition that all Christians have premarital sex. That is incorrect.
That's like saying all atheists are adulterers.
Christians have a belief system. Do we always follow that belief system? No. We are not perfect.
Have you ever broke the speed limit? Have you ever cheated on a test? No one is perfect. |
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Maybe i live in a dream world, but i don't think that the majority of Christians care so much about
homosexual behavior. Sure the fundys do, but the vast majority of those i know don't really care.
I don't live in a part of the country where there are so many fundamentalist Christians, and those
that are here are not very outspoken. My partner and i live in our house in a town that is
overwhelmingly Catholic, pretty diverse in general, and have never had anything but a friendly and
welcoming experience. Just last night i was speaking with a priest and he was encouraging us to go
to church. He said that he wants more gay people to attend.
The latter part of your statement is certainly true.
I think that is where the biggest gripe is with fundys by non fundys. It is in their sanctimonious
speech and their hypocritical behavior. |
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