» Home » The Unknown
You Can Believe In The Bible And Also Evolution
A lot of people try to put the two together, but i don't think you can just pick and choose which parts of the bible are true and which aren't. It's like, believing in evolution against the bible, and also believing that gay is wrong, because the bible says so. I think that's bad, but I would like to hear what other people have to say. Edit: OK, i get that you CAN believe in whatever you want, but would it make sense is what I'm trying to ask.
 mariafu  06 Feb 2009 01:00
                           (What's this?)  Add to Firefox  RSS
This is very true. I don't know why you have to choose either or.
 
 Cemetary  20 Nov 2009 12:43
 Add a Comment
 
 
I believe in the Bible and change.
Such a misleading term "evolution" is.

But to take it the way you mean it, one would have to be a compromiser with contemporary "truth" to take the story of Adam and Chava not literally.
"Let us make man in our image"
He created us. Creating may take time, but do you seriously think (if you are a compromiser) that to make man in his image, he would have made the lifeform pass through different animal forms over a long time to get man in his image?
You know. I guess you could see it that way.
But then, Jesus would be descended from animals. That's ridiculous. How holy is he when he has microbialish ancestors?

Also, that could mean that Darwin was a prophet of God. Nah!
 
 Stranger  20 Mar 2009 15:50
 Add a Comment
 
 
I don't see why one can't take the Bible for what it is. A cracking book that offers some fantastic stories, an insight to history and legend and some good morals. If you take away the New Testaments general message of peace and goodwill there is no reason to deny the reality of evolution.

If on the other hand you are stubborn enough to think that the Bible is the exact word of god and every word is the literal truth then no, you can't have both, evolution does contradict Genesis. This is the sole reason why there is so much resistance to the theory of evolution. You would have to be either stupid, brainwashed or incredibly stubborn to fall into this latter category.
 
 StBalders  06 Feb 2009 17:25
 4 Comments
 
 Give me an example of the contradiction.
by  justsumguy
 06 Feb 2009 17:47
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
Let's be clear, the creation story in Genesis is the overwhelming reason the religious reject evolutionary theory. Genesis is the first and oldest story of the Old Testament, it in fact mirrors stories told in other cultures predating the Jews and was written in an era when human civilizations knew next to nothing about any of the natural world around them. Thunderstorms were an angry God back then (do you still believe that today?). In comparison the New Testament does not repeat the exact same story as Genesis to reinforce it, certainly it DOES emphasize God's glory and that all things flowed from God, but there is nothing in the New Testament that says God did not create natural processes - perhaps evolution itself - as part of his/her tool used to shape the world. Evolution is easily compatible with the New Testament, and its conflict with the Old Testament is really pretty foolish. If the Old Testament instead had a story about the Great Thunderbird (like with Native Americans) would the extremely religious Christians then keep claiming evolution and fossil records are false because the Great Thunderbird told us itself that it made every animal through the ages?

Even if you believe evolutionary theory is wrong or imperfect it is laughable that the very process of trying to figure out these answers ourselves objectively is somehow an offense to God. God did not give you a brain so you could shut it off and just take the word of one document from an ancient compilation of dozens and dozens of documents from different authors. Your subtext talked about not picking and choosing which part of the Bible to believe, but the Bible itself was picked and chosen from many books some of which are confirmed by the church to have been officially rejected or left out of the final version. A church council can pick and choose --- but no one else can? God didn't give you intelligence just to read this compilation of preaned instructions and then sit down and shut up. Don't ever be afraid to observe and question and come up with theories, Jesus himself challenged the dominant Jewish church of his day big time, and don't believe the act of thinking is somehow an offense to your God.
 
 Grenache  06 Feb 2009 03:53
 Add a Comment
 
 
You can and even may believe whatever you like, I think what you mean is should you. I believe taking anything by rote including the bible is a mistake. You should always use your mind and heart to decide what you think is best and makes sense to you. To do any less is to deny your heritage as a thinking human being. Critical thinking in all things!
 
 finsch  06 Feb 2009 01:14
 11 Comments
 
 And you should bide by your words Mr finsch and take your reasoning a little past that which you've come up with regarding the Bible and the God of the Bible in general. I understand it. But you are certainly capable of taking it further.
by  justsumguy
 06 Feb 2009 01:38
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Your wording makes a false assertion. You don't "believe" in evolution, you accept it as fact because it's backed up by evidence. Belief is reserved solely for opinion and other unprovable things, like religion.

But yes, a person can believe in a religion and accept the fact of evolution.

Edit:

noideas lives down to his name. That someone can be so wilfully ignorant of how science and evolution work is a travesty. High school dropouts like noideas should be allowed to own a computer.
 
 K9  11 Oct 2009 07:29
 2 Comments
 
 Accept it as fact? It's not fact; it's theory.
by  dlmiller82
 11 Oct 2009 07:51
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
If you believe in what genesis says word for word the I don't see how anyone could believe in both the bible and evolution. I think that someone can be a christian and believe in evolution but there is a huge distinction between these two things, I personally don't think that science and religion can/should mix but that's just me. If a person takes genesis as literal truth I would find it incredible to believe that they also believed in evolution, the two contradict each other massively.
 
 kddan  06 Feb 2009 17:40
 3 Comments
 
 No they don't. Give me an example.
by  justsumguy
 06 Feb 2009 17:47
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!
Have you ever tried to suck and blow at the same time?
The only person that frequently tries is justsumguy
 
 v00v  06 Feb 2009 02:43
 3 Comments
 
 No, but I'm sure you can tell us about it. Sounds like something you would do.

lmao
by  justsumguy
 06 Feb 2009 02:46
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
Personally, I don't know how anyone can believe the bible, so my answer is no, you can't believe in both
 
 hodver  06 Feb 2009 02:33
 3 Comments
 
 You don't know so your answer is no.
That's typical around here!
by  justsumguy
 06 Feb 2009 02:52
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
Depends on the person in question. I, personally, don’t think the two should be blended together as if they’re on the same level. They’re not. The concerns of science and the concerns of the Bible are not the same. Science is religiously neutral and the Bible isn’t a science book. They shouldn’t be mixed as if they’re two halves of the same whole. The two are definitely compatible so long as each one stays on their own side of the line and isn’t forced onto the other’s. Once the line is crossed, the nonsensical subjective assumptions always begin.
 
 Hizashi  06 Feb 2009 02:27
 3 Comments
 
 There are many scientist that blend science and the bible without any problem
by  v00v
 06 Feb 2009 03:08
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
I figured mariafu would spend all night looking up the Ten Commandments and still not nail the question. I felt obliged to help out. Sorry for butting in.
 
 my2cents2u  06 Feb 2009 01:23
 24 Comments
 
 Sorry, this was meant to be a comment under the response from JSG....oooops. Wrong box. I tried to delete it, but I would have had to write a response to cover it up. I did not wish to write one at the moment, so here I am retracting this. My bad.
by  my2cents2u
 06 Feb 2009 01:28
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
You, as is the case with most "believers" and "non-believers" have done very little research regarding the Bible. Most people (by far most people) go by what they've been told. That includes believers and non-believers. Most people who have read the Bible in it's entirety a couple of times would be considered versed in the Bible. A ridiculous concept.

Tell us what the main commandment is.
Tell us what the second is.

Or just talk about your favorite dance tunes.
 
 justsumguy  06 Feb 2009 01:06
 26 Comments
 
 i don't know the commandments in order, but i know quite a few of them. don't tell me i know nothing about the bible, its not like i didn't do catholic bible studies (and pay attention) for about 10 years. i aced all my bible tests too. so I'm not a theologian (?) I'm not completely ignorant.
by  mariafu
 06 Feb 2009 01:09
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Sign In / Sign Up
 For and Against Recent Activity
Related Debates
I Think We Should Maintain Our Tradition’s Excellence, Share It And Save It
God Is Infinitely GREAT!
The Government Are Hiding That There's Alien Life In This Universe
Some Species Of Dinosaur Existed Alongside Humans.
David Icke Is The Son Of God.
If "god(s)" Exist, He/they Is/are Mean
After Reaching A Mature Age, Most People Drop Their Religion And Substitute A Spiritual Idea That Makes...
Mermaids Exist.
Our Life Is Meaningless. We Are On This Earth For No Reason At All.
Inevitably, Knowledge Is Not As Valuable As Mutually Shared Love Or Friendship
New Debates
Is Halloween Better Then Christmas?
They Should Relax The Language Censor A Bit.
A Little Bit Of Flooding In England Shouldn't Be Called "flooding Of Biblical Proportions"
H1N1: A Real Mystery
Edward (vampire) Is Better Than Jacob (wolf)!! TWILIGHT!!
There Is Nothing Remotely Attractive About Johnny Depp.
There Will Never Be World Peace
Degrassi Is A Good Show!!
We Should Not Be Required To Learn Spanish In School.
Islam Is Inherently More Pernicious Than Christianity