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Bus Operators Must Provide Passengers With More Security
A 20 year old passenger travelling to Winnipeg (Manitoba) aboard a Greyhound Canada bus was stabbed and then beheaded with a butcher's knife on the coach late last night by the man sitting next to him, according to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP). This absolutely horrific incident highlights the fact that no security precautions are taken to protect passengers traveling by bus in Canada and the US. Coach operators like Greyhound must start taking security much more seriously.
 mackenzie  31 Jul 2008 18:12
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I agree, but not for the reason given by the OP. Beheadings are rare on buses, even (especially?) in Canada. Muggings however aren't, and are in fact a fairly serious and endemic problem on bus services in every urban area in the world. Buses need some form of air marshalls, maybe even just on a few buses to get the message across. The only problem of course is that this is a considerable expense when you consider the other running costs of the bus (fuel, driver, that's about it). Still, would be very nice.
 
 Quincel  24 Apr 2009 17:23
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That was such horrid news. And I agree.
There should be security procedures when travelling by bus. They have Security at airports, so why not Buslines. It would at least help prevent scenarios such as this from happening in the future.

Also, TTC drivers are frequently harassed, spit on, etc. So I think that drivers of public transportation vehicles should have plexiglass booths. Many taxicabs do.
 
 SlyOne  29 Oct 2008 08:43
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Though I was first tempted to think "Only one attack... Show me 20 and maybe I will agree.", I remembered that one attack caused a war in the Middle East... So, here is my say:

I agree with Hidell in the fact that we should not have mini airport security terminals on public buses. Speaking of which, quoting our friend on the other side.... "We just need to accept that we live in a world where bad people exist and bad things can happen. The exact same thing could have happened to someone sitting in a cafe or walking through a park. " Saying this you are implying that we should totally ignore them? Action is required.

The only reason one should disagree with this is that it would be harmful to society, which it is not.
 
 XieXie  01 Aug 2008 03:59
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I think that anyone who takes Greyhound-operated buses in Canada and the US is probably thinking the same thing after discovering that an innocent young man who was quietly listening to music was stabbed and then beheaded by another passenger on one of these buses. It makes little sense to make passengers go through cumbersome security checks at airports, when no such precautions are taken in the case of ground transportation.

There is a far greater risk that we will fall victim to a random act of violence than a terrorist incident when traveling. The image of a passenger in rural Manitoba being decapitated and then having the attacker wave the deceased man's head in one hand and a butcher's knife in another should illustrate in the most horrific and dramatic terms why security needs to be improved in the case of ground transportation.

It should be noted that passengers and the driver did all that they could in this case. The bus stopped along the Trans-Canada, near the community of Portage La Prairie (Manitoba) and after 37 passengers fled the coach, a handful returned and tried to intervene. Unfortunately, they were too late and the victim's head had already been "sawed off," according to one of the eyewitnesses.
 
 mackenzie  31 Jul 2008 18:18
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If you still think you should get to feel safe on the bus, then someone needs to burst your bubble and let you out.

Does anyone really want weapons checkpoints when you get on the bus? It runs slow enough already!
 
 ur_wrong  03 Nov 2008 05:25
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They are there to transport you. They don't have any additional responsibility to protect you.
 
 Specter87  17 Oct 2008 02:06
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The bus smells like pee, you know why?
Because people pee on there.
 
 eelmonkey  02 Aug 2008 19:45
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 What does that have to do with the debate? We are talking about security, not sanitation.
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 03 Aug 2008 03:45
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What are you suggesting? That people getting onto buses undergo the kind of screening we see at airports, with security staff there to do searches, use X-ray machines and get people to take their shoes off? Or that there be on board security guards who walk up and down the aisle of the bus, staring at everyone? No. That is ridiculous. It would be overly intrusive to bus passengers and it would be hugely expensive, leading to a massive rise in the cost of bus tickets.

We just need to accept that we live in a world where bad people exist and bad things can happen. The exact same thing could have happened to someone sitting in a cafe or walking through a park.

You point out that the threat of terrorism is vastly exaggerated. Your solution is not to take the hysteria out of that but to up it everywhere else.

Consider this for a real solution : Maybe if the passengers on board the bus had been armed, they would have been able to stop the perpetrator before he did the actual beheading instead of just running off the bus, leaving him to die.
 
 Hidell  31 Jul 2008 18:31
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 With armed citizens, public safety in Canada would become just as pitiful as in the US, where gun crime is constantly making headlines. Basic security screening at all coach stations would ensure that someone with a massive butcher's knife could not get on a bus. Passengers could leave their shoes on as well, since we're not talking about sophisticated bombs.
by  mackenzie
 31 Jul 2008 18:40
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