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Brits Need To Stop Believing It Was An Honor To Be Under Their Empire
Every time I get into a debate with a Brit they always take the position that being under their empire was a privilege. Look, I don't care if a society chooses to eat mud or scrape their food with their toes, it is not a privilege simply because you believe a fork is a more civilized way of eating. The whole point throughout history is that societies do not want to be controlled by other societies. And to suggest that life would have been worse without your influence shows utter arrogance on your part.
 moreno  03 Nov 2009 14:30
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Being under the british empire was an embarrassment. Gave them the boot and glad we did!
 
 Vegito  16 May 2013 04:57
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Yeah! We should have just let Germany defeat them in World War 2. You should have heard Churchill begging America for help when his Royal forces were getting trampled over.
 
 Hizashi  02 Mar 2011 02:38
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 Why start there, lets go further back in history.
by  moreno
 02 Mar 2011 06:27
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I dont want to flatter anyone:

Brits left this place and its a mess now!

I just hope they would have been here relishing the rough serenity here! Together!! Really missing them!!!
 
 tzrs1981  02 Mar 2011 01:20
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Im for it, but would America not still be for the indians in that case?
That fact alone means you probably make a very good point.
Britains empire was much master and slave, raping countries for resources. The civilisation they gave them was conformity to our civilisation, better advanced, but not necessarily better.
Seems to me not much has changed.
Rule western democracy..The worlds new empire.
 
 2free  07 Nov 2009 01:25
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Too right. They were the cause of famine in Ireland, and left us to starve! Back then they were nothin but pansys!! :)
 
 lyd09  03 Nov 2009 22:37
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Now I know what prompted this debate. I believe your debate title is what you think I think but you have just jumped to that conclusion based on your own prejudice. It may suprise you to know that I agree. If you only stopped presuming what people thought, stopped making sweeping prejudices about groups of people (an act you claim to detest but are one of the most guilty of) and digested information you might be able to move past teenage, no it all, thought processes.

Yes us Brits do need to realise that the days of the Empire are long gone and so be it. That us bringing civilisation to the world with a gun in our hands whilst reaping massive personal rewards at the cost of so much to so many was not something to be proud of. Whilst you might refuse to recognise that there were many good things that were done and that it is all too easy to judge the past by today's standards, we Brits carry a burden of shame for dirty deeds that were done in our name. That said what country could that not be said of - we are all humans and share the same nasty natures. The truth is we were just bloody good at it (something that I am not proud of) and the time in history that we were bloody good at it meant that we did our Empire building on a global scale. The sooner you, and others (New Labour + the BNP) grasp this, then, and only then, will we be able to stop hatred and war. Also then people would be responsible for their actions today rather than you excusing them based on what happened before any of us were alive. This is the only way forward.

In my opinion we should position ourselves in a similar stance to the Scandinavian countries and just look after ourselves not think we are some big player on he world scene that we no longer are. I bet then you will probably say that we should be doing more to help others and are being a selfish nation, such is your blind hatred.

Benali
 
 StBalders  03 Nov 2009 20:05
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 I'm not making sweeping prejudices about people. I only talk history.

The problem is Britian cannot take the stance as Scandinavians because Brits have made it part of their culture to involve themselves in other cultures around the world. To be like Scandinavians is not culturally or economically in the best interest of Brits. Your economic interest are so ingrained around the world it would take a total economic and cultural overhaul of England.

From a historical perspective England uses more resources than it should which motivated expansion similar to the US.

Scandinavian countries use only what they need and don't try to sap the worlds resources so there is no need for an influx of immigrants to work for cheap.

I really don't care if you help others or not. Everytime a powerful nation claims to help others, there is always a motive behind it. They always want something back in return.

The only thing the World Bank became was the worlds Loan Shark. And we all know who control the World Bank.
by  moreno
 03 Nov 2009 20:30
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Our empire did many great things, we were an innovator and had the most powerful army and naval force of the time. At the same time the empire in its time span did many detestable things that no Brit today should be proud of. The domination and massacre of countries we went to war with, the continued duration of slavery as well as political bullying of pracitically all other nations for a sustained period of time is nothing to look back on with pride and honour. The good things the empire did are in my opinion outweighed by the evils committed by our empire, the immense suffering of those within our empire is proof of that.
 
 kddan  03 Nov 2009 17:19
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Not only that, but a lot of modern Brits seem to act like they're still an empire, they certainly seem to think that they're a much bigger deal on the world stage than their current situation would suggest. Former glory doesn't translate into current glory.
 
 Cephus  03 Nov 2009 15:54
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 Go Cephus, spit it all out, just as fast as your vendictive hyperventilating little pumped up lungs will let you! Seems like you yanks have fluffed your lines so many times upon the world stage, you should be the last to criticise any empire. I think our master playwright GBS, had you lot nailed to the tree when he said 100% American, 99% IDIOT!
by  LordDaniel
 03 Nov 2009 18:19
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No they don't. It IS an honour. It's been the making of most forward thinking countries. And forks are an Italian invention.
 
 damselfly  26 Jan 2012 11:48
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For the most part, countries benefited from being a part of their "commonwealth", apart from the loss of cultural identity.

It gave them a connection to Europe, involving them in world politics, and allowing them access to new technologies. The colonization helped to stabilize what are now quite successful (and independent) nations.

And, they're not exactly rubbing it in anybody's faces in politics now. Like with the Roman Empire, I think we've just moved on.
 
 RoboHippo  04 Nov 2009 07:19
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 its clear your history is limited. Such a romanticized justification. There was a reason why these colonized countries rebelled.
by  moreno
 04 Nov 2009 14:44
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Trying to get a yank to flush their brainwashed minds out is only achieved by one with high levels of self-discipline and low reserves of self pity. However, moreno, there's definitely a more blurred distinction between giving some one like old Rusty time to get constructive results, rather than being jerked off by some little yanky pr***, sorry, Dick, Joe or Harry! Rusty it's a lesson well learned, but the theory is a d@mn sight easier than the practice...;-) Good try old boy!
 
 LordDaniel  03 Nov 2009 18:04
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 I think brits have a blurred sense of reality. Call it delusions of grandeur. Rusty is not a debater anyway. I'm sure you meant, "old" literally. He is one of those, "Get off my lawn you darn kids" type of guy. Or he could just be you.
by  moreno
 03 Nov 2009 18:27
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Exactly what the yanks are doing now. Taught you everything you know. (It's 'privilege' by the way.)
 
 RustyWater  03 Nov 2009 16:32
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 I know....wanted to see how many spelling nazis will post.
by  moreno
 03 Nov 2009 16:37
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