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I feel that there are a group of debaters who are not able to grasp this concept. If one wants to debate something, they should stick to ONE screenname and take responsibility for what they say!
 my2cents2u  30 Jan 2009 20:58
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Its true people make the choice to do the things they do if they get into trouble while doing it is their own fault and they have to fix it now days so many people let others take the fault for their own mistakes and it should not be that way you mess up you deal with it i had a warrant for my arrest at 19 years of age from my own dumb choices and i took care of it on my own even with my parents wiling to take care of if but being an adult means taking care of yourself
 
 zoelynn  24 Apr 2009 09:14
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That true but many of us don't want to accept it.
 
 hows_hk  08 Apr 2009 10:26
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Yes of coarse adults are responsible for their actions.
 
 swimmer724  09 Mar 2009 19:25
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You first 2cents ;-)
 
 ToObserve  04 Feb 2009 18:12
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 I do not follow your comment. What do you mean? I do conduct myself as an adult and have only one login.
by  my2cents2u
 04 Feb 2009 22:34
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Joe the plumber is destroying this site with his epic foolishness and delusions of grandeur. He thinks he is some kind of genius engineer, but we all know that he is just a lowly sink swabber.
 
 Hidell  04 Feb 2009 15:38
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 I totally agree!..;-)
by  joe9
 04 Feb 2009 16:05
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Yes I agree absolutely. I won't beat around the bush but lets be honest we all know who this debate is on about. I was willing to give him for quite sometime the benefit of the doubt but he has lost any of the respect I once had for him. It has become annoying and shows no finesse as a debater, using more than one screen name to look like more than one person is backing a ridiculous point is pathetic.
 
 kddan  31 Jan 2009 11:57
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 He has a view on the other side. I still do not get his point. I do not see why you need more than one screenname to "play devil's advocate" as he said. I find the whole "many different faces of joe" to be a dramatic attempt to hide his true feelings. While on here as, Lord knows who, he can post one view, and come on as Joe and post something else. If one knows what they are saying, why the need to say different things? I am not into so much drama as that.
by  my2cents2u
 31 Jan 2009 15:07
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I totally agree. What is the point of doing it anyway, it is just plain weird. If you have an opinion - give it. To go to all that trouble just to agree with yourself is not the work of a sane man.
 
 StBalders  31 Jan 2009 02:15
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 I didn't have an answer to your response a few months ago, but I believe that joe9 and his array of avatars is due to a delusion of his being a great writer. In fact, he does not work and has been receiving some sort of "benefits" for 22 years per his wife. I find it hilarious that he considers himself to be such a creative writer and finds it necessary to make attempts to convince others of his supposed brilliance. In fact, I think he googles things and makes attempts at coming across as more intelligent than he truly is. If her were as bright as he suggests, why have none of us ever been given reference to one of his supposed works of art...screenplays, books, novels, etc? The answer is obvious. He has none.
by  my2cents2u
 26 Apr 2009 18:53
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I'm guessing I will eventually abandon this site for this reason specifically. It's very frustrating and annoying.
 
 Specter87  31 Jan 2009 02:08
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 If you can't lick um join um.
by  menhim1967
 31 Jan 2009 02:12
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I agree. I honestly don't see how people have the time to keep up with more than one screenname...
 
 Starburst  31 Jan 2009 01:56
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Yall figured me out...lol I'm really Hidell LMAO You're absolutely right!
 
 hodver  31 Jan 2009 01:35
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 There's only one Hidell. Lol.
by  StBalders
 31 Jan 2009 02:02
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I agree, but I don't think it's going to stop. Some people take a bit longer to become adults. I am proud to say that I am only known as bookworm3, thank you.
 
 bookworm3  31 Jan 2009 01:27
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 I already figured you were only bookworm3. You have a distinct personality and a good one at that.
by  my2cents2u
 31 Jan 2009 01:58
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I agree, stick to one name. Otherwise, you can win all of your debates by coming in under other assumed names. Not fair.
 
 menhim1967  30 Jan 2009 21:48
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 Thank you menhim1967. I appreciate your participation in my debate. Also, love your dancing M&M....very cute. On second glance, it may just be a happy face, but either way, it is cute.
by  my2cents2u
 31 Jan 2009 00:37
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I fully agree with your interpretation of the responsibility of being an adult. I also personally have only one screen name and have never ever logged in under anything else.

BUT I actually disagree with the subtext argument because there are no rules nor ethical norms that directly forbid using more than one log-in on the site. It's the Internet, it's pretty much the wild wild west, and childishness is only one of many possible different motives for using multiple log-ins to push an issue. Others include 1) deliberate socio-political agendas - such as pushing their religion by all means, 2) schizophrenia (heh, it's not impossible), and 3) site moderators.

But I respect you my2cents2u for having the personal courage to speak via your one log-in and to point out (yet again as many of the rest of us have) that there are gamesters on this site who pretend to be compelling debaters but have to prop themselves up or dodge issues by using multiple log-ins.
 
 Grenache  30 Jan 2009 21:12
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 LOL....schizophrenia....I was starting to think that I was the one with a serious mental illness.....just kidding.

I do agree that this is the Internet and, therefore, one cannot stop the childish use of different screennames and such. I do maintain though that a "responsible adult" would use only one name (unless they are a moderator as you did point out). To underestimate the power of one's words is dangerous in certain debates. The HIV/AIDS debate is one that I think people need to choose their words carefully in. Sadly, debates are not rated, and children can read them. If even one person leaves that debate believing they cannot become infected with HIV because they are either not gay or they don't deserve to catch it, a life is risked. The religious zealots make it sound like it is some form of punishment from God for being gay and the people who are homophobic make it sound like one has to be gay to become infected. I would normally not take such a strong stance and create a debate to make a point, but this is an area where people can do damage by communicating misinformation. I hope that, at the very least, I have managed to present factual information that will help people. When I chose to debate on a topic, I make sure it is one that I know something about. If I do not, I stay out of it or learn about it first.
by  my2cents2u
 30 Jan 2009 21:26
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I think multiple profiles is silly but I'd fight for their right to be ridiculous.
 
 finsch  31 Jan 2009 17:12
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 I agree that they are entitled to be ridiculous, however I think it depends on the reasoning of the person who has multiple avatars. If the use of multiple avatars is simply to win a debate, I can see that they are just people who want to win a debate badly enough to come up with multiple avatars. The part of having multiple avatars that bothers me is that when one comments to one of the avatars on one response and finds that they are then commenting to the same person with a different avatar on the very same debate, it becomes insulting to the intelligence of the person who is being reasonable and debating their point out of conviction and not just to win. Mainly, this is the case when the multiple avatars argue on both sides, which seems to serve little purpose to me. They cannot "win" a debate by posting a response on both sides. I personally got fed up with having an argument on two different sides of a debate with the same individual. Not to mention the fact that, some people on here do veer off of the topic and have a personal conversation while commenting on a debate. Then, one is stuck thinking they are writing to one individual avatar, when in fact, that avatar is one of many for some individuals. Choosing to have multiple avatars demonstrates someone who is a coward and who does not want to take responsibility for something offensive that they have said. I do recognize that it takes all types of people to make this world an interesting place, but tricking other seems rather underhanded to me. (I realize that many of the multiple avatars are easily traced to the same individual, but some are not.)
by  my2cents2u
 26 Apr 2009 18:45
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I entirely disagree, to design and invent new characters shows great ingenuity. It also gives a debater the opportunity of offering new and diverse opinions in a debate. To fully develop a character is an adept skill. If you wish to only have one avatar that is your choice, however, you should not dictate to other people who may wish to open up their mind to all levels and concepts of debating. I'm a dramatist, and it is in my line of business to invent new characters. For and Against has been very helpful to me in my profession because it gives me a rare opportunity to play out the roles of these characters in real life situations. I never take anything too seriously, and nine times out of ten my characters will only reflect your character's true personality back to you. If you can't live with seeing your true personality then I guess you are the one who should change not only your avatar, but your whole outlook of the world, and try and better yourself. There are no rules on this site that say one should stick to one avatar, and there are numerous other people I know who have more than one. After all it is the actual contents of a debate that make it interesting, and exciting.

After all, ask yourself this one specific question, how many of you would have had the balls to side with godfighter, and in doing so set yourself up for open ridicule. By playing the devils advocate in both of those recent debates, I gave you all the opportunity to voice your deepest strongest opinions about a delicate subject. How boring debating would become if everybody agreed.
 
 joe9  31 Jan 2009 12:07
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 I personally think it is not about 'balls' at all. It is about expressing your own opinion. I feel that it is only ever necessary to play devil's advocate if you are wavering what side to choose or if playing devil's advocate had no chance of offending anyone. People spoke against the homophobia because if they played devil's advocate, they would effectively be endorsing discrimination, which I am strongly against.
by  Shizenk
 31 Jan 2009 13:16
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