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Atheists Jump To Similar Conclusions About The Existence Of A Deity/Deities That Those Who Follow The Deities Themselves Do.
I personally feel that since they make a judgement without evidence just as the people they disagree with do.
 Shizenk  14 Jun 2008 12:07
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I believe it takes more of a leap to say there is no God than it does to say there is a God. To say there is no God says that you know everything about everything. Which no one knows that much.

Also, there is plenty of evidence that God exists for those that are willing to open their eyes to see it. Evidences exist in the physical world, the spiritual world, through philosophy and reason, and in our selves.
 
 created  28 Sep 2008 16:40
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Without knowing anything about you, should I assume that you are a sick and venal career criminal (rape, child molestation, theft, murder, etc.) or should I assume that you have never been arrested nor committed a crime? Since I don't know you, you expect me to the latter, and I do.

And yet, without any evidence to demonstrate a "god", you assume that one exists while atheists refuse to believe in something in the absense of evidence. We assume false until proven true about "god" in the same way we assume it about you and any criminal activity you might engage in.

Atheists apply the same burden of proof in all cases, yet hypochristians like you want different standards. If you really want to prove that you "walk with cheezus", then do it: You're presumed guilty until proven innocent if you are ever charged with a crime.

Or, you can stop acting like most christians and actually show some decency by accepting the fact that "false until proven true" applies to your "god". If you do, that doesn't prevent you from believing in it or being convinced, it merely prevents you from claiming it's proven and prevents you from trying to force that belief on others.

Oh, wait, I forgot: Forcing your belief onto others is your intent and goal. How silly of me.

Edit:

If godbots want "true until proven false" for their "god", then it applied to them too: guilty until proven innocent if they're accused of a crime.

If godbots want "innocent until proven guilty" for themselves, then their "god" myth is false until proven true.

Demanding it be any other way is hypochristianity (or whatever cult a godbot belongs to).
 
 K9  25 Sep 2008 04:29
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 concerning your comment about assuming if he is a criminal or has no criminal record at all before you know anything about him......you should not assume either. you should assume that you do not know.
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 28 Sep 2008 16:35
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When forced to make a decision logic dictates you must assume that for which there is no evidence, does not exist. So no; Atheism does not represent the same leap of faith that religion does.
 
 finsch  15 Jun 2008 17:10
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 from a scientist that is a bold statement. Gravity has no proof of existence. we see only the effects of it. yet we believe it exists.

also, logic goes beyond evidence. One can theorize philosophically with no evidence and still have a logical argument.
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 28 Sep 2008 16:45
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I follow the falsification principle, lack of evidence that something does not exist is not evidence it does exist. There is no evidence that God doesn't exist, but there is also no evidence that many things exist, this doesn't prove or even suggest their existence.

Indeed (due to the falsification principle) I believe that due to the entirely un-disprovable nature of God it is a nonsensical concept.
 
 Quincel  15 Jun 2008 16:00
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We don't "jump to conclusions" on this. We ARRIVE at a conclusion based on the evidence. I don't believe in gods for the same reason I don't believe in elves, fairies, the Bogeyman, Santa Claus, Bigfoot, flying saucers, and the Bermuda triangle. (Which I or other family members have overflown about 40 times.)
 
 OzzieMan  14 Jun 2008 18:56
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This statement is flawed! Atheists believe there is no god based on lack of evidence. Theists believe there is a god on FAITH. Faith has nothing to do with evidence. The statement is FLAWED.
 
 Bowdahaid  14 Jun 2008 16:57
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 Here is some evidence pointing towards intelligent design:

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
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 14 Jun 2008 19:33
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Kk listen There is zero evidence of gods existence. If the idea of god had never occurred in anybody's mind would we be jumping to conclusions by saying god doesn't exist? No its just that since the idea of god occurred and people have become so affiliated with it that its now a belief to not belief in god.
There can't be evidence for the lack of existence because if it never existed then it never left anything behind to show it didn't exist. Your logic is flawed because you are assuming that evidence can exist for the inexistence of something. Take dragons for a example there is no evidence of their existence and since most people don't believe in them they are thought of as unreal now if most people thought that god didn't exist it would be considered as inexistant also. Common opinion is a very powerful thing.
 
 Smito  14 Jun 2008 16:53
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 Here is more zero evidence.... well, actually seven evidence:


http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
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 14 Jun 2008 19:33
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Religious and non religious people have no evidence anyway. So it doesn't matter. One old dusty book is not evidence of a deity.
 
 moreno  14 Jun 2008 14:53
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I made a judgement based on the lack of evidence.
 
 Snipex  14 Jun 2008 12:07
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 But there is no evidence a deity does not exist.
by  Shizenk
 14 Jun 2008 12:11
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