Most Atheists And Theists Aren't Extremist

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Some people seem to think that atheists and theists, are extremist because they are more stronger and passionate in their views. I think this wrong myself, but what do you think?

Balance_92

06 Sep 2008 15:21

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That's true, but the problem is that religious moderates will stay silent when extremists of the same religion act because the religious see it as furthering their goals.

When moderate atheists see extremists who are atheists, we fight against such them, rather than sit idly by as the religious do.

09 Oct 2008 19:00

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Somewhat by definition this is true. Most of any group isn't extremist. I guess most fundamentalists are extremist, but that's a tautology.

Quincel

06 Sep 2008 17:21

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Thiests have their beliefs. Athiests have their thoughts. Were equal because neither of them really matters in the end.

Smito

06 Sep 2008 16:51

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The magic-mongers call anyone who dares challenge their wacky beliefs an extremist. They expect atheists, like children, to be seen and not heard. We are supposed to remain politely standing by while they wreak havoc across the world in the name of imaginary invisible beings. Well, to that I say No. Rational people have remained silent for too long. It's time to take the fight to the sheeple.

Hidell

06 Sep 2008 16:01

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What is the alternative? Agnostic. This is just fence sitting. Why not be agnostic about every other subject on this site as we can't be truely certain about anything. I am Atheist because I fall on that side of the debate even if I can't be 100% sure that no god exists.

Extremism needs more than just being theist or atheist.

Mosschops

06 Sep 2008 15:35

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If you acknowledge the fact you can't be 100% sure no god exists...then you are not extremist. If you present your arguments as if you were 100% sure no god exists, you would be extremist.

justsumguy

06 Sep 2008 16:27

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You are correct that atheists and theists are not synonymous with extremism. You can have either view and not be an extremist.

However, you also should admit that many people in the atheist or theist camps do push their views with fervor and thus could be called extremist.

Grenache

06 Sep 2008 15:33

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Passion and extremism, aren't the same Grenache. Passion can fuel extremism, but not vise versa. Calling someone extremist when they're being passionate is just lazy.

Balance_92

06 Sep 2008 15:41

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Look at madlyn o'hair she always came up with a shocking statement to get into the paper or news.they will come across as very much so extremist to get their fifteen minutes of fame and more or less glorify themselves.

billbill38

07 Sep 2008 03:47

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If an Atheist says there can be no God, this would be extreme. If an Athiest demands all spiritual belief are wacky, they are being extreme. Hidell is a great example of extreme. There are different types of extreme. Hidell likes to be extreme with presentation. To compare this with extremism related to killing people would be extreme.

Theists:
I would be a great example of extreme Theism. I know God. I have a personal relationship with God. Most people who do not believe in gods and some who believe in a different God would almost have to see my statement as being extremist. True, I take this into consideration when dealing with others and try to dampen this effect.

Other theists do the opposite. They are extreme with presentation, playing the same game as Hidell.

Being passionate can be reasonable. Being reasonable depends on being able to CONSIDER that which is being presented. Many are extremists when it comes to defining reason.

Anyway, difficult to escape extremism in all points of views.

justsumguy

06 Sep 2008 16:24

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I would be great big shame if I did change the wording and left you two on the wrong side :-)

Balance_92

06 Sep 2008 16:31

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Balance_92...here's a problem:
I don't just believe in God. I know God. This obviously means I believe, but at this point, belief has little to do with it. There's no way I can get away from being extreme when I know. Knowing is as extreme as we can get.

I would say there are few things I believe in. Belief isn't good enough for me. Not now. Beliefs indicate leaning towards thoughts and letting them influence us based on something we aren't sure of.

Hang on everyone, we're getting somewhere here.

In order for me to know, I had to believe. But in order for me to tell others of my belief, I had to know. I know most of you see a difference between me and religious people who incite you to frustration with their dogmatic statements. In most cases, you are dealing with people who believe and are immature in their beliefs. Much of their immaturity is due to the fact they are taught to spread their beliefs instead of taught to reason with the source of their beliefs in order to know the source.

When I read most of the arguments on here concerning belief and non-belief, they are simply not based on what I know of belief, faith and knowing.

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