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Atheism Is The Opium Of The Masses
Marx had it all wrong. If God exists, there is a hereafter, and ultimately there is judgment for all of our wrong-doings--lying, stealing, cheating, murder, torturing, abusing, etc. Etc. Etc.; then Atheism is the perfect drug for hiding from such accountability. I'm not defending the existence of God or eternity, but if they exist along with ultimate accountability, then atheism is the perfect "escape" drug.
 charlee  22 May 2008 00:54
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Charlee, I have to agree with you, but not really for the reasons you state....People use drugs in a way to self medicate (to deal with an unbearable world) it postpones the inevitable clash with reality. I have a father in law who is getting very old, and is an atheist, evolutionist. The bitterness and anger at the injustice of the world eats him up every day, with nothing to look forward to but death and decay. Most all of his generation is gone, he feels terribly alone, even with children who love him. Quite literally, like a drug addict who has gotten to the point, where the drugs no longer console, his own beliefs are eating the sole he never fed alive, and he will most likely die a very miserable man. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
 
 stever  22 May 2008 16:46
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 I'm sorry about your father-in-law. I wish there were words to console him.
by  charlee
 22 May 2008 20:53
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Yup, it's boring and makes people dumb.
 
 Mark  22 May 2008 00:58
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 No, that's religion.
by  Cephus
 22 May 2008 07:49
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There's nothing good about it so how could it feel good?
Maybe some feel good thinking they are right.
 
 Stranger  07 Oct 2008 16:26
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Is there not judgement for wrongdoings in this life, for which atheism accounts? Surely the ultimate judgement would be facing up to the wrongdoings in this life, rather than the purely, for the moment, speculatory afterlife?

Also, I fail to understand how atheism removes moral responsibility. Would it not instead make people morally responsible for all their own actions, for there is no 'God,' no Church and nobody else to pin their wrongdoings on.

And charlee, in your comment "the Christian may realize he needs forgiveness, but the Atheist doesn't," how can you say such a thing? That simply implies that the atheist is a cold, uneducated individual. Have you not heard of a concept known to many as conscience? Those who feel in conflict with their conscience, regardless of their faith, or lack thereof, aim to seek forgiveness or feel remorse or regret for their wrongdoings.

I would argue that atheism allows for more personal accountability for moral and immoral actions than most theistic schools of thought.
 
 wrong  03 Oct 2008 00:32
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 I appreciate your comments, however:

1. As C.S. Lewis expressed so well, it is difficult to understand such terms as "wrongdoings," or "moral responsibility" or "conscience" in an Atheistic world. All these terms strongly imply a moral code and a moral code without a "Moral Code Maker", is a bit problematic. If good and bad, right and wrong, etc. are just products of chance or culture or randomness, why follow them?

2. The Christian explanation of good and bad, conscience, wrongdoing, etc. better fit with the reality of these things and how we humans behave.

3. I did not mean to imply that atheists are cold, uneducated individuals. Quite the opposite, I find many atheists caring and bright, and do many good things and refer to them as my friends. I just think they do not have a strong intellectual position to justify and reasonably support such notions as moral and immoral, right and wrong, good and bad, etc.

4. An interesting question is: Where does the conscience come from? The answers lead to a variety of interesting consideratio
by  charlee
 03 Oct 2008 19:48
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It's the anti-opium. It's the smelling salts of reality. Atheism does not exactly put you in a warm fuzzy place. It's hard, it's cold, and it's real. But some of us prefer Grizzly bears to teddy bears.
 
 OzzieMan  18 Jun 2008 19:37
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 Nice metaphor - "smelling salts of reality".
by  Hidell
 18 Jun 2008 19:45
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Religion is the Opium of the masses If you look at history you will see the thousand killed from drugged out religious people with religion set as a reason fro there cause.

Please don't ask me for EVIDENCE either you know what I mean.

People set boundaries for themselves, sex race, origin and religion they use the to determine themselves.

Especially religion.

If we lost the gridlines and kept the morals that they promote then their would be peace

But there will always be Zealots who will stop this from being attainable
 
 Evidence  22 May 2008 15:57
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To state that you are atheist puts you in a storm of abuse, anyone who can state that they are atheist and stick to it is a strong person.


But that can be stated for other religions as well, such as Islamic, in Scotland.
 
 martlamb  22 May 2008 09:04
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Atheism is an extreme form of self -responsibility - there is no divine forgiveness, no "get out of jail free". I'm not an atheist, but have known many who were & who were very moral & justice minded people - much more so than "nominal" Christians. I would say that the "opiate" of the masses currently is our exaggerated sense of self -importance
 
 hatrack49  22 May 2008 03:13
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Okay, so Karl Marx said that because he knew that a revolution would be frustrated by the effect that religion has on the individual. The anger and frustration would leave when they went to church and this would frustrate the revolution from taking place.

I really don't see this happening with atheists. If anything they seem more inclined to activism than most others. Furthermore, the actual affect that atheism seems to have is an unbridled pride in all of their positions (be they for good or ill).

If anything i would say that today's opiate of the masses is sports.
 
 innomen  22 May 2008 01:19
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 Let me give further clarification. If God's judgment is real and life eternal is real, then Atheism is the perfect anesthetic to this reality.

I can see your point about Marx, if a person focuses entirely upon the rewards of the hereafter and remains complacent about current life injustices then it is an abhorrent apathy. I don't think an accurate view of the purposes of our lives here on earth agrees with that; so disinterest in the unjustness of the world would be something to held accountable for, wouldn't you agree?

Yes, I can see how the view that "we only go around once" or "the here and now is all we got" or "get it while you can" etc, etc. etc. could lead to profound activism. The question remains, however, is this really all there is?
From my own problem with pride, I think unbridled pride is not so good.
by  charlee
 22 May 2008 01:36
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The issue is that atheist are accountable because they know this is the only life they have. They don't pull out that trump card called, "forgiveness" every time a Christian does something wrong throughout their life which appears to be almost every day.
 
 moreno  22 May 2008 00:58
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 You bring up an essential point: the Christian may realize he needs forgiveness, but the Atheist doesn't.
by  charlee
 22 May 2008 01:05
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