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American Relations With Israel Must Be Minimal
The United States has a very dangerous relationship with Israel (providing financial aid and weaponry) and because of this relationship the U.S. Is being punished by Hamas and other terrorist organizations.
 Yugoslavia  19 May 2008 03:14
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I agree this is a very dangerous part of the world, we should take it over
 
 n-stein8_  26 Oct 2008 19:37
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One hundred years ago, there was NO anti-jewish sentiment among muslims worldwide. All hatred of jews at the time was solely by christians. The cause of anti-jewish sentiment by muslims worldwide today is due to Israel's terrorist acts against the Palestinians. Even nutballs like Osama bin Laden have said addressing that issue would bring peace.

The only solution to Middle East peace is the 1967 borders and getting jewish squatters off Palestinian land. If an autonomous Palestinian state existed and Israel stopped its terrorist acts against its neighbors, there would be no problems.

Instead, the US protects Israel from consequences and legal condemnation (vetoing every UN resolution against Israel) and even promotes Israel's terrorism against others. This is true even when the US is the victim of an Israeli terrorist attack, such as the bombing of the USS Liberty -Israeli pilots were ordered to bomb it even though they knew it was a US vessel.

The Israeli economy would collapse without the $3billion annually given by the US. The withholding of the money should be used as a threat to get Israel in line.
 
 K9  07 Sep 2008 05:46
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I agree because the only thing that the people of the middle east hate more then America is Israel, and for the most part they only hate America because they support israel, support them with weapons and money to keep them ass there pawns in this chess game called the middle east. Now if the relations were minimal, then Arabs would begin to like America again. Close relations with israel is a death sentence for any nation
 
 tourza  19 May 2008 06:07
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Relations should be kept to a minimal due to the fact that our troops do not need more reasons to be shot at by fundamentalist driven terrorists who do not care if they die, our troops on the other hand do care if they die and so do their families and so should the American citizens, this is not Patton's WWII philosophy of "the point is not to die for your country, the point is to make the other bostard die for his" terrorists gladly die for their beliefs and we have to do everything in our power to not give them a reason to fling themselves at our soldiers. That's why relations should be at a minimal, not only that but to create good relations with other Muslim countries who give homes to many of these terrorists.
 
 Yugoslavia  19 May 2008 03:35
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I recognize the Jewish/Muslim relations in the Middle East and the role played by the U.S. In it are complex and sensitive subjects. But let's be honest, if Israel were simply left alone and allowed to exist most of these problems would go away. And if the Muslim nations supporting Palestine's fight instead used the war money to take in those refugees and give them meaningful lives in their countries or to build up Palestine's remaining territory as a decent place to live then most of these problems would go away.

And I'll agree Israel has done some brutal and provocative things in the neighborhood, but the Muslim world has surrounded and goaded them like bullies so how do you expect them to react to you?

And finally, I'll grant Israel stole territory from Palestine at the start of their state, but depending on how far back you go in history it was also stolen from the Jews in the past too. Life has to move on. Israel exists now and I don't regret that the U.S. Helps them to continue to exist.
 
 Grenache  18 Aug 2008 20:51
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 If Israel were left alone it would commit genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. The jews need to be brought under control and the 1967 borders made permanent.

If you want peace, you have to be peaceful. Israel's terrorism against others is the greatest cause of anti-jewish violence by muslims. Prior to 1900, there was NO anti-jewish sentiment by muslim nations; in fact, it was muslim nations which protected jews and gave them refuge for a thousand years while the Christians were murdering them across Europe. Read a history book; Israel is the cause of all it's own problems of today.
by  K9
 07 Sep 2008 05:54
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I love Israel, and the Jews inside of it. :-(
LONG LIVE ISRAEL.
 
 Scorpion  18 Aug 2008 20:37
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 For a thousand years leading up to World War II, the worst cause of anti-semitism and murder of jews was christianity. The jews were victims of a thousand years of unjust persecution.

This time, however, they have brought on themselves the animosity of the entire muslim world. If Israel ceases to exist and all jews murdered, this time they will have no one to blame but themselves and their own terrorist acts against Palestinians and neighbors in the Middle East.

Israel could have peace if it wanted it, but it doesn't. It wants to perpetrate the same violence against its MidEast neighbors that jews were once victims of.
by  K9
 07 Sep 2008 05:50
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Let's face it. One of the main reasons Terrorist organizations have such a hatred for the USA is because of the lifestyle they live.

The Americans have such a good lifestyle, many poorer countries (referring to the common people, not the rich dictators in power) are easily incited against such a fortunate country.

The fact that some Americans look down upon every other country doesn't help either, as they are stereotyped for all Americans from Terrorist point of view.

Religious Interpretation is another factor. There are good and bad in every race. Unfortunately, the bad are mad at Americans because they are "Infidels" who don't believe in Allah..and thus, are deemed appropriate to kill.

Now, on to Israel. They've been the scapegoat's for everyone's problems for thousands of years. You've got a problem? Pharaoh is running out of workers? Jewish slaves. Roman Emperors need more money, so they tax more money to people. Jews can't pay, it's all their fault!

They've been kicked around like garbage, human refuse, for too long..and they're not just gonna sit around while they have enemies approaching. They are God's chosen people (from their point of view) and because of this people were often jealous and..jealously leads to hatred.

After the Holocaust, they were given a small portion of land to call their own after so long. And they're not giving it up without a fight. Abandoning a friend in need isn't a good thing to do. If Israel gets taken over, then America will lose another ally in the middle east. When the close, easy to attack Jews are gone..who are the Jihadists coming for next?
 
 Virtue  19 May 2008 05:05
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 For the Jews to be kicked around for ages is not right, however it is not right for them to do the exact same thing to Palestinians.
by  Yugoslavia
 19 May 2008 20:50
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So we should let terrorist organizations dictate what we should do? This is stupid
 
 codeman  19 May 2008 03:18
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 Thats not even the point! No one even brought that up, if the United States had minimal contact with Israel and focused more on domestic affairs then the terrorist organizations will not go after the United States with such a fury as they do now, no one said let Hamas dictate America.
by  Yugoslavia
 19 May 2008 03:29
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